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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:30 pm

I haven't really followed the drama, but I felt a bit insulted by the comment on the facebook group. This one;

"...but we have been trying very hard to make this happen. For those that hang in with us and do not move to one off suppliers you will not be disappointed. "

I assume I would be counted as a one off supplier? I currently have supported 38x remote installation, and done 7x in-house installs in, currently preparing for two more upgrades this week. I am a single person running this show, and I can tell you that it is easy to run this kind of business. Oh, and I also have an unrelated full time job.

My garage is currently filled with 3x packs :D
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:20 am

I don't think that anyone could call you a 'one off supplier', Dala! You are both more productive and more successful than Fenix.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 2:17 am

Not to mention more knowledgeable and more generous with respect to contributing free code and products such as the grill block.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:00 am

Fenix pretends to have the ability to do what they claim. They have zero credibility, which they constantly reinforce by their (in)actions. Their "modular battery architecture" is a pie-in-the-sky dream that they have no ability to produce (even as a prototype).

Dala, if you announced you were working on a modular battery architecture for future LEAF battery replacements, then I would give it a high chance of actually happening simply because it was being created by someone who actually has significant experience and knows what they are talking about..
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:45 am

jlv wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 7:00 am
Dala, if you announced you were working on a modular battery architecture for future LEAF battery replacements, then I would give it a high chance of actually happening simply because it was being created by someone who actually has significant experience and knows what they are talking about..
Absolutely.

@Dala, I don't think you have anything to worry about from Fenix. Their word is worthless. The customers they have are trapped because they have given Fenix money they cannot afford to lose. I'm willing to bet that very few if any new customers have signed up to Fenix in months.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:20 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:49 pm
cwerdna wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:54 pm
Still nothing useful. Here was a reply at https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 6195519154 made on Tues, Sept 29th before 1 pm Pacific:
Well again, it is not helping us to make comments like above. An announcement on the first 10 battery replacements will be coming this week and batteries are on the way to installer locations across the country. It has taken a while to make this happen, but we are close. The company has been personally calling many who have been vocal on this issue, but clearly it is not enough. So I ask only to watch for two things to happen. 1. We are shipping batteries to installers and 2. Leaf's will be installed with CPO batteries within the next two weeks. This begins the cycle of shipping and installing you all have been waiting for and by the end of the year an announcement on the delivery of the Fenix Power Modular Battery Architecture for EV's will also be delivered. We have been working on CPO logistics for multiple national installer locations and planning for the Fenix Power New Technology during the last 30 days. This is happening and I would now ask of you, as we said when I was in the military, "keep your powder dry". Thank you. Bill Bysinger SVP
So, now do we give them until Oct 13th for a battery to arrive at an installer and installation to begin?

We've already missed the "We hope to have installations begin in the next 10 working days" that was posted about on Sept 13th (viewtopic.php?p=590115#p590115).
A guy at https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 9638101143 says
"The rescheduled call went at planned. The CPO pack has been verified, and will be shipped to PA next week. Install to happen the week of Oct 19"

Let's see...
From a quick glance at https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPowerCoForum/, still seems like people are waiting and I didn't see any reports of a completed installation.

How long should we give them now? Until EOD Friday, 11/6? Or, will we see another excuse for the delays?

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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:10 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:20 pm
How long should we give them now? Until EOD Friday, 11/6? Or, will we see another excuse for the delays?
Bysinger said on Sept 29th that
batteries are on the way to installer locations across the country.
Unless you think it possible that batteries are still in transit or have arrived but not been installed, Fenix has crossed the line from empty promises into fraud.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:14 am

But on Oct 23 he said "we have 10 batteries staged to ship": https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 057153101/
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:10 am

jlv wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:14 am
But on Oct 23 he said "we have 10 batteries staged to ship": https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 057153101/
So what ?

The Sept 29 announcement did not say 'any moment now,' or 'countdown in 10, 9, 8 ...'
It said batteries in transit. Either he was lying or Fenix can say where those batteries, which were already in transit over a month ago, are now.
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Re: Fenix Power: A new third party battery replacement?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:18 am

SageBrush wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:10 am
jlv wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:14 am
But on Oct 23 he said "we have 10 batteries staged to ship": https://www.facebook.com/groups/FenixPo ... 057153101/
So what ?

The Sept 29 announcement did not say 'any moment now,' or 'countdown in 10, 9, 8 ...'
It said batteries in transit. Either he was lying or Fenix can say where those batteries, which were already in transit over a month ago, are now.
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