DougWantsALeaf said:Somehow Chademo is still beating CCS
:lol: :lol:
If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
DougWantsALeaf said:Somehow Chademo is still beating CCS
Only when you count the number of "stations", which is meaningless in terms of usefulness.DougWantsALeaf said:Somehow Chademo is still beating CCS
In term of locations, yes. In terms of ports available, CCS wins. And the only reason that's true is because EA has to provide CHADEMO as part of the settlement terms. In practical terms, that means one CCS/CHADEMO combo and two or three CCS only stations at any given location.DougWantsALeaf said:Somehow Chademo is still beating CCS
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1132960_which-ev-model-has-the-fast-charging-connector-compatible-with-more-us-stations
DougWantsALeaf said:Somehow Chademo is still beating CCS
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1132960_which-ev-model-has-the-fast-charging-connector-compatible-with-more-us-stations
Randy said:Riddle me this, group.
Scenario: Electrify America site. Say it has 3 dispenser cabinets, and each cabinet has two nozzles. 2 of the 3 have dual CCS, even though only one car can be charged at one time.
The third cabinet has a CCS nozzle and a Chademo nozzle.
How would you count this site in the nozzle totals?
I would tend to count more along the lines of the number of cars that can be charged, not just 5 CCS and 1 Chademo (which is how I think they're being counted).
DougWantsALeaf said:The article does reference the government source.
I have seen Tesla sessions at Chademos (both at EA and other sites) increase over time as more of their cars appear on the roads. Even if only 3% have an adapter, when you include the sites that have adapters available, it makes for a lot of charging sessions.
I have to imagine that EA will need to go down the EVgo route soon to be competitive, though until they actually are forced to be profitable to continue, that may be a while.
Similar locations in the USA popping up. I've yet to see anyone comment on the implication: governments seem OK with an EV future that is 3/4 Tesla. Quite the change from not too long ago that these same Gov's were not concerned with excluding Tesla from their plans.webeleafowners said:Tesla has been contracted to install a bunch of these types of sites with typically 25 percent of total stalls as Chademo/CCS.
Each EA CCS charger has two CCS cables but if you look closely, you'll see that the cable is too short to reach to the other side of the car. The cable is short so it won't overheat at high charge currents. You can only charge one car per station. The second cable is there for the other side of the car if your charge port is there. Three stations, three cars. Three CCS connections, one CHADEMO connectionRandy said:Riddle me this, group.
Scenario: Electrify America site. Say it has 3 dispenser cabinets, and each cabinet has two nozzles. 2 of the 3 have dual CCS, even though only one car can be charged at one time.
The third cabinet has a CCS nozzle and a Chademo nozzle.
How would you count this site in the nozzle totals?
I would tend to count more along the lines of the number of cars that can be charged, not just 5 CCS and 1 Chademo (which is how I think they're being counted).
Tesla is complying with local or state regulations in order to get building permits. In some cases that means adding non-Tesla chargers in addition to their own. This is particularly true when Tesla is adding stations to municipal parking lots. Not so much when they add stations to shopping malls or private lots.SageBrush said:Similar locations in the USA popping up. I've yet to see anyone comment on the implication: governments seem OK with an EV future that is 3/4 Tesla. Quite the change from not too long ago that these same Gov's were not concerned with excluding Tesla from their plans.webeleafowners said:Tesla has been contracted to install a bunch of these types of sites with typically 25 percent of total stalls as Chademo/CCS.
Not that I actually believe the above -- I think Tesla has just out maneuvered the gov officials. Still, the appearance is remarkable.
johnlocke said:Each EA CCS charger has two CCS cables but if you look closely, you'll see that the cable is too short to reach to the other side of the car. The cable is short so it won't overheat at high charge currents. You can only charge one car per station. The second cable is there for the other side of the car if your charge port is there. Three stations, three cars. Three CCS connections, one CHADEMO connectionRandy said:Riddle me this, group.
Scenario: Electrify America site. Say it has 3 dispenser cabinets, and each cabinet has two nozzles. 2 of the 3 have dual CCS, even though only one car can be charged at one time.
The third cabinet has a CCS nozzle and a Chademo nozzle.
How would you count this site in the nozzle totals?
I would tend to count more along the lines of the number of cars that can be charged, not just 5 CCS and 1 Chademo (which is how I think they're being counted).
johnlocke said:Each EA CCS charger has two CCS cables but if you look closely, you'll see that the cable is too short to reach to the other side of the car. The cable is short so it won't overheat at high charge currents. You can only charge one car per station. The second cable is there for the other side of the car if your charge port is there. Three stations, three cars. Three CCS connections, one CHADEMO connectionRandy said:Riddle me this, group.
Scenario: Electrify America site. Say it has 3 dispenser cabinets, and each cabinet has two nozzles. 2 of the 3 have dual CCS, even though only one car can be charged at one time.
The third cabinet has a CCS nozzle and a Chademo nozzle.
How would you count this site in the nozzle totals?
I would tend to count more along the lines of the number of cars that can be charged, not just 5 CCS and 1 Chademo (which is how I think they're being counted).
DaveinOlyWA said:johnlocke said:Each EA CCS charger has two CCS cables but if you look closely, you'll see that the cable is too short to reach to the other side of the car. The cable is short so it won't overheat at high charge currents. You can only charge one car per station. The second cable is there for the other side of the car if your charge port is there. Three stations, three cars. Three CCS connections, one CHADEMO connectionRandy said:Riddle me this, group.
Scenario: Electrify America site. Say it has 3 dispenser cabinets, and each cabinet has two nozzles. 2 of the 3 have dual CCS, even though only one car can be charged at one time.
The third cabinet has a CCS nozzle and a Chademo nozzle.
How would you count this site in the nozzle totals?
I would tend to count more along the lines of the number of cars that can be charged, not just 5 CCS and 1 Chademo (which is how I think they're being counted).
On a 350/150 station, they are aimed at different voltages
DaveinOlyWA said:On a 350/150 station, they are aimed at different voltages
Japan sure.DougWantsALeaf said:Mercedes EQE to have Chademo in Japan, China, etc.
https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/iaa-munich-2021-mercedes-benz-eqe-unveiled
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