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JeremyW
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BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF gen 2

Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:38 pm

This is a thread discussing things OTHER THAN MORE RANGE, A BIGGER CAPACITY BATTERY, OR IMPROVED BATTERY LONGEVITY that you'd like to see in the next generation leaf.

Things like:
-Faster charging (10kW)
-More aerodynamic
-Higher performance motor
-Better Navigation
-More options for telematics (more climate control options, honk horn, GPS location, etc)
-????
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:51 pm

Better GOM
Variable charge %
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:21 am

- Ability to get both the QC port and the equivalent of the premium package (better stereo + around view monitor) w/o having to go to the highest trim level (SL). That ability unfortunately vanished w/the '15 Leaf. You could no longer get SV with both the QC + LED & premium packages. Some people don't like leather and/or don't want to pay for it. Some don't like the black interiors. I belong to all 3 of these. Folks at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 01#p382501" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; first noticed this and some are unhappy with it.
- Offer a somewhat darker grey interior (easier to keep clean) but not black. I don't like the black interiors offered. They look too depressing and somewhat cheap.
- Get rid of the 3.3 kW OBC. Make it 6+ kW on all of them.
- Include hybrid heat pump heater and cruise control on all trims (remedied recently).
- Give indication for how much braking is via regen vs. friction brakes.
- Removable head restraint for rear middle passenger
- Show % SoC values in Leaf app instead of just GOM values and 12 fuel bars
- Add ability to stop charging via Leaf app
- Allow setting ending SoC % via Leaf app
- Get rid of the useless trees in the dash and driving range circle button on the steering wheel
- Include EVSE that supports 120 to 240 volts (well, if it supported down to 100 volts, it'd work properly in Japan as well)
- Include standard spare tire or make it an option, preferably dealer installable
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:43 am

Lighter interior options; only black is not good for keeping a BEV cool!
Show both SOC and battery capacity in tenths of a %.
Cameras instead of side mirrors.
Self parking option.
Collision-avoidance option.
Lane-keeping option.
Regeneration paddles on steering wheel option similar to Mercedes B-Class Electric Drive.
Show battery modules' condition in app.
Fold-down back-seat head rests.
Solar panel on roof for fan to cool interior option.
120-volts outlet in trunk.
Adapter for using CHAdeMO charrer with SAE Combo charging station.
Option to use Tesla Supercharger stations.
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:45 am

Replace trees with GIDs.
Tire pressure read out screen.
In fact, screens showing everything you can get from LeafSpy.

But I wouldn't get a new LEAF if I could get an eNV200 with more range, dual, even quad motor 4WD. I want more cargo/passenger space.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 Ahr

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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:06 am

cwerdna wrote:- Get rid of the 3.3 kW OBC. Make it 6+ kW on all of them.
- Include hybrid heat pump heater and cruise control on all trims (remedied recently).
Spoken like someone who wants 6kW charging and the heat pump, and doesn't give a hoot about people that don't! If these things add cost to the car then your suggestion is being ignorant towards people who don't want these things. The suggestion only makes sense if their inclusion makes no difference to the cost of the car.

Braking - the regen should be independent of the brake pedal. This is a left-over from trying to make the car feel like a 'normal ICE'. At least, there should be a control setting to give up to full regen on throttle lift off alone, with no effect due to brake pedal position.

Creep - on or off, make that an optional setting.

The two features, above, together would provide 'one pedal' driving, and also fix the rubbish low speed braking effect.

Electrical hand-crank. Have a crank somewhere with a little dynamo, like you get in those clockwork radios. If the battery is flat, you can crank that for a minute or two enough to charge a capacitor to activate the HV relay.

A proper key! At least, an option not to have this key-less entry guff. Is it possible to deactivate the car if it 'goes mad'? With a key, you'd just take it out.

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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:10 am

Better Interior.

Auto Cruise that will work from 0 mph in city like the I3

20 Kw Ac charger like the Renault Zoe.

More power, 170-200 Hp option

More range obviously.

Definitely CCS to ChaDeMo adapter as someone mentioned above.

Variable regen as also suggested with the option for 0 regen when you lift off the throttle , why waste energy through regen when you can free-wheel on energy already consumed ? Then hit the brake for regen when you actually need to slow down.
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:36 am

The port hatch could fit both CHAdeMO and CSS. No need for an adapter.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 Ahr

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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:38 am

donald wrote:
cwerdna wrote:- Get rid of the 3.3 kW OBC. Make it 6+ kW on all of them.
- Include hybrid heat pump heater and cruise control on all trims (remedied recently).
Spoken like someone who wants 6kW charging and the heat pump, and doesn't give a hoot about people that don't! If these things add cost to the car then your suggestion is being ignorant towards people who don't want these things. The suggestion only makes sense if their inclusion makes no difference to the cost of the car.
Except that the upgraded charger and hybrid heater are extremely useful upgrades and really don't add much to the price of the car. I don't know about elsewhere, but in the US, Nissan was able to drop the price on the SV and SL models for 2013 even though those features became standard. So apparently these features are not as costly as you imply.

Like with electric windows, in the US almost all new cars in the market come with cruise control standard. Nissan USA's decision to leave it off for the base model S was literally penny-pinching. If Nissan can include cruise control on a $14k Versa sedan, there is no reason why they could not include it on a car whose base price is within a grand of the base price of Audi A3 or Mercedes CLA250.
Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar at 34 months/26,435 miles. Lease returned 2 months later. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F.
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Re: BESIDES MORE RANGE, what would you like to see in LEAF g

Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:45 am

Good point.

What would an EV really be priced at in future? When credits and rebates are gone.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 Ahr

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