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Re: Where are all of these 200-mile EVs coming from?

Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:49 pm

cdub wrote:Easy answer. Base Leaf now is $21k after incentives. Add $10k worth more of battery and VIOLA! :) Easy peasy. :)
According to Ghosn the new battery costs & weighs the same as the old one - with double the capacity.

I expect Leaf 2 to cost the same with double the range.
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Re: Where are all of these 200-mile EVs coming from?

Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:22 pm

evnow wrote:
cdub wrote:Easy answer. Base Leaf now is $21k after incentives. Add $10k worth more of battery and VIOLA! :) Easy peasy. :)
According to Ghosn the new battery costs & weighs the same as the old one - with double the capacity.

I expect Leaf 2 to cost the same with double the range.
I guess this is why NMAC has been providing a $3500 rebate with purchases instead of lowering the price of the car. I could understand why the did that at the end of the 2014 model year. But when they continued it at the beginning of the 2015's, I couldn't figure out why.
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Re: Where are all of these 200-mile EVs coming from?

Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:51 pm

VW joins the chorus.

Amazing how easy it is to announce the cheap 200 mile range BEV, isn't it?

That's the latest intro date I've seen for the LEAF gen 2, and I find it hard to believe Nissan will try to sell the gen one for another ~three years.

But, maybe Nissan knows more about the veracity of the announcements of its prospective competitors than I do...
Automakers in race to double range of affordable EVs

DETROIT -- Global automakers are readying a new generation of mass-market electric cars with more than double the driving range of today's Nissan Leaf, betting that technical breakthroughs by big battery suppliers such as LG Chem will jump-start demand and pull them abreast of Tesla Motors Inc.

At least four major automakers -- General Motors, Ford Motor Co., Nissan Motor Corp. and Volkswagen AG -- plan to challenge Tesla to be first to field affordable electric vehicles that will travel up to 200 miles (322 km) between charges.

That is more than twice as far as current lower-priced models such as the Nissan Leaf, which starts at $29,010. The new generation of electric cars is expected to be on the market within two to three years...

Nissan is planning to introduce a successor to the Leaf in early 2018, according to a source familiar with the program, and that model is expected to offer significantly greater range than the current Leaf, the best-selling electric car in the United States, which can go 84 miles (135 km) between charges.

The 2015 Leaf uses batteries made by a joint venture between Nissan and supplier NEC. It is not clear if the future model will shift to LG Chem, although Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn has identified LG Chem as a potential battery supplier.

VW plans to expand its current range of electrified vehicles, including a successor to the battery-powered e-Golf in 2018 with much longer range, according to two sources familiar with the program. The current e-Golf uses batteries made by Panasonic and has a range between charges of 83 miles.
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Re: Where are all of these 200-mile EVs coming from?

Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:21 pm

My perception is that major auto manufacturers are mainly "auto assemblers", building cars with whatever they can readily source from suppliers at various price points. So if bluetooth is a commodity item from suppliers, guess what, lots of cars from everyone have bluetooth. If 50kwh battery packs are readily available, presto, 200 mile range EVs, with a variety of nameplates slapped on them.
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