cwerdna
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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:34 am

goldbrick wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 9:30 am
One thing I've learned is that the standard and optional equipment seems to vary year-by-year, in addition to the obvious differences by trim level. So what is optional on a 2013 SV may be standard on a 2015 S or not available at all or only available on a different trim package, etc.

And what really chaps my hide - I have to say it again - is that there is no option available to get heated seats on a 2020 S. What a joke.
For your bolded part, not really. There weren't really significant changes between 2013 to 2015 within a trim level or what you mention.

The biggest change was for '15 was on the S trim: https://www.autoblog.com/2014/07/10/201 ... lue-color/. The 80% charge limiter went away in the US starting w/model year '14 and never returned.

That said, starting with '16 (and also on '17), where you could get the 30 kWh battery, Nissan started screwing with where you could get rear heated seats. For '12 thru '15, front and rear seats were heated and it was a forced standard feature. Once gen 2 came out for the US market (model year '18), you couldn't get rear heated seats. I don't know its current status off the top of my head.

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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 10:59 am

In that particular case you may be right. My point though is that the features do vary from year to year in often surprising ways.

For example, a 2018 Leaf S with the All-Weather package comes with heated front seats, heated mirrors and heated steering wheel. Fast forward to 2020 Leaf S and there is no option package that has heated seats, much less heated steering wheel or heated mirrors. What is included and what is optional changes from year to year.

https://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam/N ... ure-en.pdf
https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/elec ... S|40%20kWh

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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:45 am

You are right about the heated seats on '18 vs. '20 S. TIL. The specs tab of the below confirm that.

https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... -press-kit
https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... -press-kit

Interesting... I wonder if it's a matter of trying to keep S trim prices and costs low or forcing upsell into higher trims for those who want heated seats. Or, newbies to EVs may not understand the value of heated seats and steering wheel and might've been turned off into paying for it (having it standard or seeing cars on the lot w/the all weather package).

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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:46 pm

Does anyone know which apps are available on the 16/17 S? The head unit has an apps button, and pressing it displays a message that a NissanConnect subscription is required.
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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:13 pm

Driver8 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:13 am
...It would be nice if Nissan pointed that out in a few more obvious places (like in the app, where I registered my S vehicle....). Instead I just get an error message.
I was in the same situation when I got my 2018 Leaf S. I researched more online and figured it out later on. But, I realized that I didn't need or miss it.
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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:28 am

henrydehoja wrote:
Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:13 pm
I was in the same situation when I got my 2018 Leaf S. I researched more online and figured it out later on. But, I realized that I didn't need or miss it.
I would definitely like to have it, as it's a little annoying to have to go out and turn the car on to check how much my trickle charger has left to go (as we haven't gotten a level 2 charger yet (and might not).
Just kind of annoyed that the salespeople were hyping it up so much at the dealership, even though the car we were going to get didn't have access. Honestly there is a good chance they didn't know, as I don't think this particular Nissan dealership does a TON of Leaf sales. They had one or two new ones on the lot, but....

My other minor complaint is that there isn't an easy way to figure out how much battery charge you have when it's plugged in (unless I"m missing something). Nissan seems to have picked some really odd fractions for some of their battery indicators (12 bars for capacity?? 3 charging lights on the dash??).

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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:47 am

You can scroll through the menu button on the dash and there is a % SOC available that displays increments of 1%. My dash is permanently set to this because it is by far the best way to gauge the SOC on a 2017 S.

Also, the trickle EVSE will provide a fixed amount of power per time so you can do some simple arithmetic to estimate the SOC. On a 30kWh pack that comes with a 2017 S you can figure very roughly 4% SOC per hour using L1 at 12A. So a 13hr overnight charge session should provide a roughly 50% increase in SOC. You can get more exact by trial and error if needed but this usually close enough for my uses as I like to have the SOC at 80% when finished so some error isn't a big deal.

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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:39 pm

Driver8 wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:28 am
My other minor complaint is that there isn't an easy way to figure out how much battery charge you have when it's plugged in (unless I"m missing something). Nissan seems to have picked some really odd fractions for some of their battery indicators (12 bars for capacity?? 3 charging lights on the dash??).
I can't relate too much there. I have my car in the garage, so I can head there easily to check up on things.
But, I know the annoyance of having to turn the car ON just to get an accurate reading of charge %. I wish I could get that charge % from just opening the door and viewing the display.

For public chargers, I typically use networked ChargePoint or EVgo stations, so I use the their app to check the charge status.
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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:04 pm

Driver8 wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:28 am
My other minor complaint is that there isn't an easy way to figure out how much battery charge you have when it's plugged in (unless I"m missing something). Nissan seems to have picked some really odd fractions for some of their battery indicators (12 bars for capacity?? 3 charging lights on the dash??).
From the later reply, I guess you haven't used the rest of the trip computer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-HF1NfP9A.

FWIW, the '11 and '12 Leaf did NOT have a % SoC display. It only had the GOM and the 12 battery bars. % SoC display didn't arrive until model year '13. This is why before '13 Leaf existed, drivers were building stuff like the original gid meter: https://saxton.org/tom_saxton/2012/01/l ... build.html.

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Re: Is Nissan Connect available on all LEAF models?

Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:51 am

cwerdna wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:04 pm
Driver8 wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:28 am
My other minor complaint is that there isn't an easy way to figure out how much battery charge you have when it's plugged in (unless I"m missing something). Nissan seems to have picked some really odd fractions for some of their battery indicators (12 bars for capacity?? 3 charging lights on the dash??).
From the later reply, I guess you haven't used the rest of the trip computer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-HF1NfP9A.

FWIW, the '11 and '12 Leaf did NOT have a % SoC display. It only had the GOM and the 12 battery bars. % SoC display didn't arrive until model year '13. This is why before '13 Leaf existed, drivers were building stuff like the original gid meter: https://saxton.org/tom_saxton/2012/01/l ... build.html.

Thanks. I have used the display, many times. I know that's where I can see my SOC% WHEN THE CAR IS ON.
My complaint is that I have to sit in my car and turn it on to get that screen to come up. Seems like they could have very easily just made it so that pressing that button by itself (even without the car "on") would just show your SOC%. Basically what Henry is suggesting above. Just open the door and see the charge %.

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