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PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:20 am

I recently had my Power Distribution Module (PDM) replaced. The repair took almost three weeks. I normally use the 110 trickle charge at home, but plugged into a Level 2 BLINK yesterday. Carwings shows I'm only charging at 3.6Kw, should be 6.6 Kw on a ' 13 SV (or SL). I'm afraid Nissan replaced it with the slower 3.6Kw from previous model years or the current S model. The support people were useless, I knew way more about the Leaf trim levels and charge times than they did! So frustrating! Anyone had this issue? I am going to follow up with the dealer. :oops:
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:44 am

No I haven't had any problems. sounds like you qualify for the Lemon Law, if one exists in Georgia. Since you purchased/leased a 2013 SV model in March, you have every right to expect a fully functioning car without half your term of ownership being in a shop!!
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:35 am

Have you considered that the Blink you tried may not be capable of providing more than 16A? It's unlikely, but I would at least try more than the one public EVSE before you go yelling at your dealer.
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:45 am

This is likely the Blink EVSE. Try an Aerovironment unit at a Nissan dealer before you conclude this.

Blink (Ecotality) has a bunch of defective crimps inside the handles of their stations that cause the connector to burn, often taking out the J1772 connector on the EV as well. Their solution to this is to set the maximum output (pilot signal) to 16 amps, so the most you'll see is around 3.84kW into the car. (less if the power is 208v rather than 240v)

Consider getting your "trickle" cord (EVSE) upgraded to Level 2 by EVSE Upgrade, then you'll be able to fully charge in 3-5 hours at home (with any 240V outlet). If you had the upgraded EVSE, it would be easy to verify correct charge speed at home, you'd benefit from faster charge times, and you'd waste less power (charging on Level 2 is more efficient).

Many people are worried about getting it done because they are leasing, however this is a non-issue.

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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:02 am

I'm going to try another location, however before my PDM went bad, I did not have this issue using the same station... that's why I'm suspicious.
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:35 am

vacuvo wrote:I'm going to try another location, however before my PDM went bad, I did not have this issue using the same station... that's why I'm suspicious.
But by your own volition it has been at least 21 days since you were at that station. Blink could have sneaked in behind you and "fixed" their J1772 handle problem.
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:30 am

Ok, I have tried two other stations, one at Walgreens (that gives a digital readout, showing right at 3600 W) and matches on Carwings and the other at the Nissan dealer. Waiting for Nissan consumer affairs and the dealer to respond. This makes three stations all giving the same slower charge. Does it sound like what I first thought or am I missing something? I've also noticed on the trickle charge a fairly loud humming sound I never noticed with the original PDM....
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:41 am

take it in. guessing it wont take a but a minute for them to verify the charging rate (after the 3 hours it will sit before they get around to looking at it)
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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:01 pm

Keep us posted. I am going in tomorrow morning to more than likely get my PDM replaced that is what the codes said according to the dealer. I need to make sure that they but in the 6.6 kW and ask them directly

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Re: PDM Replaced, Not to Factory Specs

Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:18 pm

I once bought a new mid-range stereo system from a supposedly reputable dealer. I had checked it out first with a display model they had. My system turned out to have a defective amplifier unit, which they replaced. However, when I was connecting it, I noticed that the "new" amp had the same missing screw and the same scratches as the display model. I went back, tried the display model again, and, sure enough, it now had my defective amp in it. Maybe your dealer had the old charger in stock but not the new one, or maybe they had a lemon waiting for return that had a good charger in it. The only good thing that Ronald Reagan ever said, IMO, was "Trust, but verify." Failing that, I suggest "Don't trust dealers to do the right thing"...
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