Thinking of buying a GRIZZL E charger.
Specifically a 14-50 with extra-long, extra thick premium Cable.
Thoughts ?
https://grizzl-e.com/
Specifically a 14-50 with extra-long, extra thick premium Cable.
Thoughts ?
https://grizzl-e.com/
The thickness does make it heavier and a bit harder to bend but it's mainly the cord construction that can make it get stiff in cold temps. I used to really like the soft black rubber cords and while they generally stay flexible all the way to below zero they tend to really pick up dirt and dust as well as not the most protection for punctures. I've found the best cord to be a quality rubber cord but one that has a protective coating making it get far less dirty and easier to clean and also give it a bit more protection from abrasion. Again rubber is better than plastic/vinyl but coated rubber is the best. The orange cords while easy to clean and somewhat abrasion resistant get awful when cold, even in the 40s and many blue cords remain flexible in cold but are like the uncoated black rubber cords, coated blue or quality black seem to be the best for cold weather flexibility and abrasion/puncture resistance.SageBrush said:Cords that get stiff in the cold are a PITA, and from what I have seen, the thicker the cord, the more unwieldy (and more likely to to get damaged) it is in the cold.
This EVSE may be different -- I don't know
hbquikcomjamesl said:Grizzl-E was my first and only choice for a charging station:
1. I don't own a smartphone, so a smartphone interface would just be a vulnerability for hackers, and a mandatory smartphone interface would render the unit unusable.
2. We haven't had space for a vehicle in our garage in about two decades, so the ideal situation would be to have the unit indoors (where indicator lights would be easy to check), and the cable run outdoors through a hole in the wall, with a separate cable hanger and plug hook, hidden behind a bush when not in use.
3. Because of cabinets and workbenches that would be nearly impossible to move out of the way, the unit would probably have to be mounted someplace where you'd need a ladder for access.
4. Without having new wires pulled all the way back to the main panel, I only have a 30A 240V power socket (and even that would have to be extended some 20 feet).
The Grizzl-E met all my needs: the only controls are an internal DIP switch, impossible to hack and impossible to accidentally disturb. The line cord and charging cable can both be detached (by unclamping the strain reliefs and taking out the screws attaching the wires to the terminal strips), and so I was able to (1) replace the 14-50 line cord with a 14-30, and (2) remove the charging cable, run it through a hole in the wall, and reattach it. And the plug hook is a separate piece, allowing me to fabricate a cable hanger, with a bracket to mount the plug hook sideways, and bolt it to the garage wall behind the bush. And on top of that, because of the designer's conscious decision to omit bells and whistles, it's one of the most affordable units on the market.
And the unit is made to survive full outdoor use, under Canadian conditions, so my own installation, under Southern California conditions, is likely to last forever.
So far, it has (like my 2018 Leaf) exceeded all expectations. So much so that if you go to the Testimonials section of the Grizzl-E site, you'll find a detailed description of my installation, with pictures.
Unless you get extreme (below). There is a "special edition" ("avalanche"?) that it white. Sorry about the size of the second image; it's a direct link to the grizzle site, and this forum doesn't allow sizing of external images ( edit: as far as I know).alozzy said:the unit itself is black only.
EatsShootsandLeafs said:Just got mine.
I would have gone with the white one but it currently only has a white cable and I could picture it getting dirty, so went with the standard black, 24', premium.
Ordered direct from Canada on the weekend and it arrived today to NY, so that's quick. I paid in USD, but they process it as a foreign transaction so I got hit for about $15 from my credit card (it does charge foreign fees). No shipping cost, and they do not charge tax.
It feels super solid and is charging up the Leaf now. Will mount it later today. Went with the 14-50.
I didn't bother with a smart phone evse because I figure it's something I'd use for about three days and never bother with again. I do not have time variable electricity, and as for a reminder--which I would have possibly used--both of my cars offer one if parked at home and not charged within a certain period of time.
After reading some iffy reviews on Amazon of many chargers I knew that I would only be buying one from North America, because if it says it's UL listed I believe them and not that they just printed some stickers off. So basically this charger was ~$200 cheaper than other north american 40 amp based units (yes, the leaf only charges under 30A at this time, though).
LeftieBiker said:Rather than extend the power cord and "install" the unit outdoors, you can also get a J-1772 extension cord to let you have a 35'+ cable for the plug, with the unit snug in the garage.
Sounds like a nice idea. Note I believe?? you might be able to avoid the adapter plug by simply removing the neutral prong on your Nissan EVSE(hacksawing if off possibly). I believe without the neutral prong(which isn't need for the EVSE anyway) the 14-50 plug would plug into your 6-50 outlet. Verify this first but I believe it's true. I took the neutral prong off my 14-50 plug EVSE(not a OEM Nissan but rather my old Juicebox EVSE) and even though I've never ran into a 6-50 plug I believe I could plug into it. Of course your adapter plug would work too.EVDean said:I'm taking delivery of a 2019 SL Plus in a few days and I'm planning on buying a Grizzl-E Classic EVSE with the 6-50 plug from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XSNL95...&colid=QS6ZIRQY417H&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
I already have a 6-50 welder outlet in my garage and I can buy a welder extension cord on Amazon to reach out to my parking area in my driveway. (who has room in the garage for and actual car? lol)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085HLGB4...colid=QS6ZIRQY417H&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
The factory EVSE has a 14-50 plug so until I buy the Grizz I can deploy this plug adapter to the existing outlet to charge my battery.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082X6GS93/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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