koolkev said:I am leaning towards the HCS-40 P with 14-50 so I can take it with me if I go camping.
Back to GFI
Anyone have a comment on an Eaton Br Load Center GFCI breaker?
Any comment on AFCI breakers.
Thanks again.
koolkev said:I am leaning towards the HCS-40 P with 14-50 so I can take it with me if I go camping.
Q: Can I install a ClipperCreek 240V charging outdoors?
A: For outdoor installations we recommend installing a hardwired 240V EV charging station. ClipperCreek charging stations have a fully sealed NEMA 4 enclosure that provides superior protection to the components inside the station from outdoor elements. All of our plug-in 240V charging stations have an indoor rating due to the 240V plug. The plug-in units have the same fully sealed NEMA 4 enclosure, it is 240V plugs that are not rated for outdoor use and should not be exposed to the elements. Also, an optional wall mount connector holster can in installed indoors or outdoors. The optional holster provides a secure place to store the connector head and provides extra protection from the elements.
koolkev said:I would be happy to go $100 even if it isn't required. I picked one out and was quoted $300 but the counter man inferred that I choose a rare over specked part.
GerryAZ said:Some 240-volt EVSEs test for a good ground connection by passing a small current to ground. If they pass more than 5 mA, they will trip a GFCI breaker. Therefore, check EVSE manufacturer recommendations before buying an expensive GFCI breaker. As an example, the AeroVironment EVSE I purchased in 2011 will instantaneously trip a 240-volt GFCI breaker even without the cable plugged into the car because it draws more than 5 mA to check the ground connection. I would prefer to have GFCI protection on my EVSE supply circuit, but the AeroVironment unit will not allow it.
The Nissan 120-volt EVSEs (and upgrades from EVSEUpgrade) will work fine on GFCI-protected circuits. I sometimes use my EVSEUpgrade unit with 20-ampere, 240-volt circuits fed from GFCI breakers.
Gerry
$700?! Looking on Amazon, there appear to be all kinds of large electrical boxes for about $100 or less - and you don't need to have the cord inside. I agree that you probably will be fine installing it "unprotected" though, especially if it's not directly exposed, and if you at least put the outlet in some sort of box.koolkev said:Thanks for pointing out the outdoor rating issue. I did get the 40P. I'm going to chance it with California weather and not "needing" it regularly. I have a 110v outlet in the garage but cement and such in the path for a new 220 in the garage. I was looking at a big NEAMA 4 enclosure but $700 more is not in the picture. That was for an enclosure big enough for everything including the cable.
Just remember that with your EVSE choice you can ONLY use >=40 amp outlets, which in practice means only RV outlets or if you're verylucky a 50 amp dryer or range outlet. If you think you'll ever have the chance to charge off of lesser 240V outlets, e.g. 30 amp dryer outlets, you'll need another EVSE that can be adjusted to draw less current.So I think it would have passed muster as indoor. Just run the cable out a grommited hole in the bottom. I got the RV outlet with cover and the GFI breaker so if I'm charging or letting someone else charge they can use 220.
I want to be able to take the 220 charger on trips so if I get somewhere with a 220 outlet I'm in business. I'm looking at RV campsites etc.
BlueandFav said:The Juicebox says not to plug into a protected outlet so I was hoping it would work but expected problems. Electrician said I can switch out the breaker if I have problems. Tomorrow the inspector will check it out. I'll see what he says. I'm assuming the GFCI breaker is the problem.
mwalsh said:BlueandFav said:The Juicebox says not to plug into a protected outlet so I was hoping it would work but expected problems. Electrician said I can switch out the breaker if I have problems. Tomorrow the inspector will check it out. I'll see what he says. I'm assuming the GFCI breaker is the problem.
Switch out the breaker temporarily for a non-GFI. If the problem goes away then it's the breaker. If the problem remains then it's either the Juice Box or your LEAF. I take it the LEAF is good with other L2 EVSEs (ie: public ones)?
A GFI breaker is code here too, at least for outdoor outlets, but I'm only going to be using it for my compressor and maybe every once in a while for one or other of the cars, using the EVSE Upgrade modified Nissan brick.
BlueandFav said:Yesterday I had a 14-50 outlet installed for a Juicebox Pro. It's on a GFCI breaker because that is the code as of two weeks ago. The electrician said I would likely get some nuisance tripping and that GFCI breakers aren't necessary but inspectors don't care, thems the rules.
The Juicebox seems to be working correctly but my leaf doesn't like it. I can charge with the level one cable but when I plug in Juicebox cable I get the three lights flashing then they go dark. No breaker tripping though.
The Juicebox says not to plug into a protected outlet so I was hoping it would work but expected problems. Electrician said I can switch out the breaker if I have problems. Tomorrow the inspector will check it out. I'll see what he says. I'm assuming the GFCI breaker is the problem.
Nubo said:The only problem specific to GFCI would be potential nuisance tripping. If the breaker hasn't tripped then the problem is something else unrelated to GFCI.
What does the JuiceBox app say?BlueandFav said:The Juicebox seems to be working correctly but my leaf doesn't like it. I can charge with the level one cable but when I plug in Juicebox cable I get the three lights flashing then they go dark. No breaker tripping though.
wmcbrine said:What does the JuiceBox app say?BlueandFav said:The Juicebox seems to be working correctly but my leaf doesn't like it. I can charge with the level one cable but when I plug in Juicebox cable I get the three lights flashing then they go dark. No breaker tripping though.
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