cwerdna
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Some folks have been notified (not me). For me, it's a price increase.
https://www.evgo.com/pricing2019/
https://www.evgo.com/pricing2019/
cwerdna said:Some folks have been notified (not me). For me, it's a price increase.
https://www.evgo.com/pricing2019/
Valdemar said:$0.20/min was likely non sustainable, $0.27/min is probably too.
LeftieBiker said:Valdemar said:$0.20/min was likely non sustainable, $0.27/min is probably too.
I think they are relying on the monthly fee plan, and just using the minute charge to pay for power and maintenance.
Valdemar said:$0.20/min was likely non sustainable, $0.27/min is probably too.
RonDawg said:Valdemar said:$0.20/min was likely non sustainable, $0.27/min is probably too.
For CA, that’s just for the LA area. Prices are higher elsewhere in the state: 32 cents/minute for San Diego and 30 cents a minute outside of LA and San Diego.
I haven't paid a cent either since I've never used EVgo yet. In fact, ever since I started driving an EV at end of July 2013, I've yet to pay even a penny for any paid public or workplace charging.LeftieBiker said:cwerdna said:Some folks have been notified (not me). For me, it's a price increase.
https://www.evgo.com/pricing2019/
https://www.evgo.com/special-offers/nissan-no-charge-charge/
I've not paid a cent so far, but if the above is correct I'll have to go back to unplugging before 30 minutes is up. I may try another 45 minute night session, just to see. Then as the weather warms back up I'll return to L-2/L-2 charging only.
I also have $5 ChargePoint credit from some Apple Pay Promo that unfortunately expires 4/9/19. Not sure I'll be able to put it to good use before then.
Freecycle exists but I've never given nor received anything. The credit I think is tied to my account.LeftieBiker said:I also have $5 ChargePoint credit from some Apple Pay Promo that unfortunately expires 4/9/19. Not sure I'll be able to put it to good use before then.
Does the Freecycle listserve still exist? Give it to someone who needs it.
I use DCFC a couple times a month and have made trips to Sacramento, the Bay Area, Vegas, and San Diego. Mostly using EVgo's DCFC sites as they are in useful locations, have been reliable, and return to service quickly if there are problems. Pricing seems reasonable and competitive;cwerdna said:...Will be looking for cheaper stations, where possible. But, over here in the Bay Area, it seems that EVgo is one of the more common SAE Combo providers, if not the most common...
By power do you mean energy charges or demand charges ?LeftieBiker said:Valdemar said:$0.20/min was likely non sustainable, $0.27/min is probably too.
I think they are relying on the monthly fee plan, and just using the minute charge to pay for power and maintenance.
By power do you mean energy charges or demand charges ?
Valdemar said:Didn't realize the pricing was different. Still it's hard to imagine 32c/min makes for a profitable business model with the energy cost and operational overhead.
cwerdna said:Some folks have been notified (not me). For me, it's a price increase.
https://www.evgo.com/pricing2019/
That is not obvious to me.davewill said:Valdemar said:Didn't realize the pricing was different. Still it's hard to imagine 32c/min makes for a profitable business model with the energy cost and operational overhead.
It's a tough proposition. My guess is that the locations are covering costs under the assumption that it brings business in. I don't see how anyone could cover all the costs of maintaining charging locations based on fees alone. The biggest problem is that you can only get so many cars through in a day when they each have to sit there for 30-60 minutes. A gas pump can service a 10 times as many cars in the same amount of time. If we ever get the holy grail of 5 minute charging, that could change.
SageBrush said:IIRC Superchargers are about $50k a station
InsideEVs said:When I asked Steinberg (who previously worked on electrification at BMW) if the stations cost $1 million, he said, “Easily.”
Steinberg added that the locations have one DC fast charger and multiple other dispensers. “Could it be $2 million?” I asked. Steinberg replied, “I’m not the expert on that, but the targets are between a half and one million dollars.”
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