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Trump is wrong on this one. CA can do whatever they want, and any other states that care to join them are free to do so as well. Pretty sure this gets shot down in court (or upheld depending on your pov)
iPlug said:It’s a zombie issue for Oilpan4 - his California air quality fiction was already proven to him to be wrong many months ago. He conveniently forgot about that and brought up the same zombie propaganda again. Sorry folks.
https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=27506&p=546234&hilit=ozone#p546234
For example, he was already shown data:
So according to Oilpan4, vastly improved is just bogus stuff because "having their own standards for more than 50 years still hasn't fixed the problem."
Oilpan4 said:So we just pretend California doesn't own the top 6 spots for worst air polluted cities in the US?
Oilpan4 said:I'm not the one pretending the most air polluted cities in the country are some how success stories.
Oilpan4 said:Better late than never.
Seems like they could have fixed, not bandaid the problem without with out policies that effect other states.
But where's the fun in that.
Oilpan4 said:I think they should be able to screw up their own state as much as they want as long as it doesn't effect other states.
If the fed pulls their ability to set their own emissions standards since they had 50 years to make it work and they are still in last place it will just hasten their transitioning to electric or at least all hybrid car sales that much faster.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/12/01/culdesac-tempe-arizona-car-free-city/Culdesac Tempe is a car-free housing development for the 'post-car society'
Residents won't be allowed to drive or park personal vehicles on the property
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2019/12/20191215-arb.htmlCalifornia ARB approves air quality plan for South Coast Air Basin ahead of 2023 deadline; calls for Federal action
The California Air Resources Board (CARB) voted to approve an updated plan for the South Coast Air Basin aimed at further cutting smog-forming emissions to attain the federal 8-hour ozone standard. The air quality plan is the most stringent in the nation.
In order to address some of the country’s highest levels of smog, the plan includes new strategies to improve air quality, ranging from a new statewide locomotive regulation to more stringent off-road diesel engine standards. The plan also includes current efforts to transform California’s vehicle fleet to zero-emission.
Combined, these measures will provide an additional 25 tons per day of NOx reductions that can be credited toward the 108 tons of NOx per day reduction that is still needed to attain the federal 8-hour ozone standard by 2023. The remaining reductions are reasonably available from further action at the federal level, CARB said.
CARB estimates controls on these sources for which the federal government is primarily responsible—e.g., interstate trucks, planes, trains and ships—could lower NOx emissions in the South Coast by more than 60 tons per day. Even while calling for more action by the federal government to reduce pollution, in taking its action, CARB underscored that it will continue to use its authority to the fullest extent to achieve more reductions from pollution sources it regulates. . . .
The US EPA first established the 80 parts per billion 8-hour ozone standard (80 ppb averaged over 8 hours) in 1997. Since then, CARB and the South Coast Air Quality Management District have together achieved NOx reductions of 900 tons per day. Sources under state control have been reduced by between 70% and 90%, while sources under federal jurisdiction have been reduced by only 16%, and some federal sources of emissions are growing.
While much progress has been made to clean up the air in the South Coast Air Basin—home to more than 17 million people in Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Orange, and Riverside counties—the air basin still has the worst smog in the country.
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/15/trump-epa-fuel-economy-standards-sent-to-white-house/Trump's reduced fuel economy rules sent to White House for final review
Automakers anticipate annual fuel efficiency increases of about 1.5%
New rules enacting President Donald Trump's reductions in fuel efficiency standards for new vehicles through 2026 moved closer to reality on Tuesday when U.S. agencies sent proposals to the White House for final review. . . .
Final rules are expected as early as late February or March, officials said. . . .
he Trump administration proposed in August 2018 freezing fuel efficiency standards at 2020 levels through 2026, erasing the increases the Obama administration enacted, but officials will not finalize that proposal. . . .
EPA said the final rules "will benefit all Americans by improving the U.S. fleet’s fuel economy, reducing air pollution, and making new vehicles more affordable for all Americans."
The administration has argued that the rollbacks are necessary for economic and safety reasons, but California and environmentalists reject that analysis, saying consumers would spend hundreds of billions more in fuel costs.
The administration's 2018 proposal would have resulted in average fuel efficiency of 37 miles per gallon (mpg) by 2026, compared with 46.7 mpg under rules adopted in 2012.
The Trump administration's "preferred option" would have hiked U.S. oil consumption by about 500,000 barrels per day by the 2030s but reduced automakers' regulatory costs by more than $300 billion. . . .
In November, California and 22 other states challenged the administration’s decision in September to revoke California’s authority to set stiff vehicle tailpipe emissions rules and require a rising number of zero emission vehicles. They also vowed to sue when the administration finalized the new requirements.
Major automakers — including General Motors, Toyota and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles — backed the administration’s effort to bar California from setting tailpipe standards.
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2020/01/20200123-crfe.htmlConsumer Reports calls on automakers to drop support for rollback of federal gas mileage standards
Consumer Reports sent letters and a consumer petition to the leaders of General Motors, Toyota, Fiat Chrysler, Nissan, Subaru, Mazda, Hyundai, Kia, and Mitsubishi, calling on the companies to drop their legal attack against America’s Clean Air Act, and instead support Clean Car standards that help drivers save money on fuel and reduce air pollution.
75,364 consumers signed the Consumer Reports petition demanding these actions from automakers.
A Consumer Reports (CR) analysis finds that a full rollback of America’s Clean Car standards would increase the cost of owning a new vehicle by $3,300 by 2025, and cost American consumers about $460 billion in total. Even a partial rollback could add $2,100 in net costs per vehicle. . . .
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