Fast chargers

As of today, April 15,2011, are there any fast chargers in operation? Where can I find a list of 240 volt chargers in operation today?

Try Google Maps search "EV charging stations"
Also: http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/electricity_locations.html.

For Portland OR area the information is pretty accurate. I walked to a couple places and they were there.


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camasleaf said:

Try Google Maps search "EV charging stations"
Also: http://www.afdc.energy.gov/afdc/fuels/electricity_locations.html.

For Portland OR area the information is pretty accurate. I walked to a couple places and they were there.

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IMO the DOE data is pretty worthless. Most is outdated (It mostly shows chargers from the 1990s and the EV1 rollout) It shows Costco (no working chargers - old induction style) and Saturn dealers (out of business). It doesn't show the type of connection.

Desertstraw said:

As of today, April 15,2011, are there any fast chargers in operation? Where can I find a list of 240 volt chargers in operation today?

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There is a DC Quick charger (LEAF compatible) in Portland, Oregon that works, and one In Vacaville, California that doesn’t. For Level 2, 240 volt chargers with J1772 connector there are the Coulomb stations on ChargePoint at http://www.mychargepoint.net/find-stations.php The site also shows availability. You will also need a Chargepoint card to use them. Some of the California Legacy chargers are being converted to J1772 but it is random and difficult to find them.

This is another reason I skipped that option

There are a lot of L3 charge points in the UK. Of course they already have 240v everywhere and their occasional use adapter is our L2 pretty much. So they are ahead of the game from the start.

As far as I know, the only confirmed ones in US are as stated, Portland World trading center and Vacaville which is reported down.

Love to hear of others.

KeiJidosha said:

You will also need a Chargepoint card to use them.

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You will WANT a Chargepoint card. But, if you need to, you can call them when you're at the charge station and get it activated. If you call them, they might still be issuing the cards for free.

Another DC quick charge station.
Seems charging price is high and need to have 3 years contract.
http://www.sciencentech.com/2011/04/10/freedom-station-at-a-dallas-walgreens/

ht2 said:

Another DC quick charge station.
Seems charging price is high and need to have 3 years contract.
http://www.sciencentech.com/2011/04/10/freedom-station-at-a-dallas-walgreens/

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$89/month with a 3 yr contract. Wow! No thank you.

Adrian said:

ht2 said:

Another DC quick charge station.
Seems charging price is high and need to have 3 years contract.
http://www.sciencentech.com/2011/04/10/freedom-station-at-a-dallas-walgreens/

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$89/month with a 3 yr contract. Wow! No thank you.

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It also includes charging at home. The local utility is charging a single monthly flat subscription price wherever you charge in its service area. This might be cost effective for some people. My SDG&E TOU rates will be $0.270, $0.164, $0.138 kw/h. If I could charge anytime/anywhere for $89/month, I might do it. Right now I'm spending $240/month on gas and that is only going to go up.

It is now a month since I started this thread. Have any new quick chargers been installed or announced?

Desertstraw said:

It is now a month since I started this thread. Have any new quick chargers been installed or announced?

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If Ecotality had installed quick chargers, I'm sure we would have gotten the press release :roll:

Related topics:

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3831
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3922
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3391

Desertstraw said:

It is now a month since I started this thread. Have any new quick chargers been installed or announced?

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From the EV Project website: "Please check back to be updated on the progress of The EV Project."

Translation: "Nope"

Desertstraw said:

It is now a month since I started this thread. Have any new quick chargers been installed or announced?

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Glenn posted 5/9/2011 SF Examiner article.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3808

The city(S.F.) may experiment with a handful of 480-volt chargers, which can power a compatible electric car to 80 percent capacity in less than a half-hour.

In all, the money is set to provide the Bay Area with 2,750 new chargers, including 30 public “fast chargers,” which can juice an electric car battery in 30 to 45 minutes.

Desertstraw said:

It is now a month since I started this thread. Have any new quick chargers been installed or announced?

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Given Ecotality's incredible foot-dragging ability, and the government's (state and federal) lack of prodding, I wonder if there will be any money left by the time they get more than a dozen or so "showcase" projects done. They will probably "require" another $130 million to finish the job they were supposed to do, if the industry start-up hasn't gone belly up waiting for infrastructure by then. There is a pretty bleak article in Fridays Oregonian newspaper about the 1,100 public charging stations that were to be built in Oregon by the end of June. So far, the total is zero.

I have been doing "deep background" research on DC quick charger installation, and the big problem is that NONE have been "UL approved" yet. Further it is most likely, as noted to me by several governement and industry "sources" that when this all shakes out, we will NOT be using the current Leaf CHAdeMO DC quick charge format here in the U.S.

8 - (((

[I have VIN #320 Leaf]

However, by about the "end of September or so" the greater Portland area should see something like 30 CHAdeMO stations installed and open, according to my sources.

In the Dallas/Ft Worth and Houston areas, to defend the pricing there, $89/month gets one the 240 home charger and installation AND open access to all the planned DC quick charge stations anticipated to be open in those metro areas (something like 60 by the end of the year). This is actually not too bad a deal, especially if one has an older house that might need serious extra wiring, etc. The $89/month fee covers apparently any residential installation ....

Now, for those with a real travelling bent, I just heard yesterday that there is another DC quick charge station besides the one (1) in Portland open for English language speakers....in Adelaide, Australia (www.theautochannel.com/news/2011/02/02/516971.html).

Of course there are over 600 such DC stations already open in Japan.

Expect politics to halt DC charging and create postpone any useful network of chargers for over a year and then expect a good chance the L3 port on the LEAF to be incompatible. Nissan, here is another solid reason you blew it by removing the 6.6kw charger and going to the 3.3. Gen 1 LEAF owners are stuck with poor charging speed and no upgrade path.

I do not understand why utilities are not encouraging electric cars. The big need that I see is for chargers along major highways. At least in areas that I know, transmission lines are near the highways. Attaching a charger with a credit card reader should not be that expensive.

Or is the real explanation that most investors see today's short range batteries as only a short term problem with better batteries coming very soon.

GeorgeParrott said:

Further it is most likely, as noted to me by several governement and industry "sources" that when this all shakes out, we will NOT be using the current Leaf CHAdeMO DC quick charge format here in the U.S.

However, by about the "end of September or so" the greater Portland area should see something like 30 CHAdeMO stations installed and open, according to my sources.

In the Dallas/Ft Worth and Houston areas, to defend the pricing there, $89/month gets one the 240 home charger and installation AND open access to all the planned DC quick charge stations anticipated to be open in those metro areas (something like 60 by the end of the year).

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To say on one hand that "when this all shakes out, we will NOT be using the current Leaf CHAdeMO DC quick charge format here in the U.S." and then to say 90 or so CHAdeMO stations will be installed by years end on the other hand does not make a lot of sense to me. CHAdeMO is here now and has been around for some time, the Vacaville one for example went online a year ago today, and L3 is just vaporware right now as far as I can tell. How long did it take for the Yazaki plug to replace the Avcon plug as well as Magne Charge? Years? My thought is that enough CHAdeMO will be installed by the time L3 is finalized that it just won't matter.