Falco
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I am probably going to jinx myself, but I have full 12 bars at 30K miles. Purchased the car on Nov 16 2013.
Falco said:I am probably going to jinx myself, but I have full 12 bars at 30K miles. Purchased the car on Nov 16 2013.
Firetruck41 said:Me too. I am hovering at 85-86%, so it seems imminent now...IraqiInvaderGnr said:I still have 12 bars with 41k miles on mine.
DaveinOlyWA said:you are not exceptional by any means. I have 29,442 miles on Car I got Dec 23, 2013. I am an estimated 34,000 miles away from losing my first bar
Falco said:DaveinOlyWA said:you are not exceptional by any means. I have 29,442 miles on Car I got Dec 23, 2013. I am an estimated 34,000 miles away from losing my first bar
I just looked at your signature and interestingly we are at almost the same capacity:
61.40AHr; SOH=93%; SOC=96.2%; 264GID, Hx=94.61%; odo 29,636
dhanson865 said:the monster thread just got another 2013 reported with 2 bars lost. Don't have the full data yet but it starts around http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=8802&start=7390#p444867
| Nov 27th 2015
| Motarra
| Stockton, CA
| 24,105
| 32 months
| 03/13
| 2013 Model
| VIN 405122
Looking back in LeafSpyPro reading history, I wonder if my 2013 Nissan has defective battery when I bought it.
czhp01 said:The 1st leaf is October 2013, and 2nd is February 2014. So both are within 2 month of manufacturing.
So do I.czhp01 said:Since both are bought close to each other and not in the summer, I think the battery should degrade similarly.
Looking at your data, it appears that December 2013 LEAF lost 7.5 Ah in 23 months while the APR 2014 LEAF lost 8.4 Ah in 22 months. The latter car was driven almost exactly twice as far during that period. Since it is fairly well established that calendar degradation effects dominate over cycling (driving) degradation in the LEAF's battery, I would say that your numbers do not seem at all unreasonable. Note that calendar degradation proceeds linearly (or perhaps slightly faster) while cycling degradation should slow as he battery degrades.czhp01 said:Looking back in LeafSpyPro reading history, I wonder if my 2013 Nissan has defective battery when I bought it.
Finally, I will note that tests by 2013 LEAFs with low Ah readings found that the actual driving range of their cars when new matched that of other LEAFs with normal readings.czhp01 said:==== Dec 2013 Nissan Leaf. VIN x20879
Date Odm bars Ahr SOH Hx GID SOC Charge
3.23/2014 3084 12 63.16 96% 97.08% 4 QC, 107 L2
2/23/2016 14717 11 55.69 85% 82.66% 241(85.8%) 97.1% 18.7kwh 4QC 508L2
=== Apr 2014 Nissan Leaf, VIN x33302
4/12/2014 230 12 66.78 100% 102.50% 3QC 11 L2
2/20/2016 23213 12 58.51 89% 88.77% 254(90.4%) 97.1% 19.7kwh 3QC 774 L2
Calendar degradation simply is degradation of the battery when just sitting there, doing nothing. It is absolutely a function of temperature. If the temperature is 10C (18F) higher, calendar degradation should be about twice as fast. So, no, you should not see ALL cars degrading similarly.czhp01 said:If the degradation is mostly calendar driven ( minus AZ / Tx high temp region), then I would think ALL cars should degrade similarly if it is not too much dependent on charging cycle and driving pattern / mileage. But this is not the case from reading other statistics. A lot of cars are still having 12 bars after 3 years. Does it mean the battery production range is wide in terms of degradation?
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