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It's not that it's missing a shift; it's that it thinks the first is N.

Also, I learned on a clutch so I'm used to hitting a petal to shift. :)
 
davewill said:
What I found is that it's necessary to let the shifter return to it's home position between shifts. If you don't, you can try all day and not get the second try to get into ECO. Conversely, no matter how fast I did the shift, it didn't miss one as long as I let the shifter return to home.
It looks like Dave has spotted my problem. I was letting the shifter go back to the neutral position, but not all the way back to home.

TimeHorse said:
It's not that it's missing a shift; it's that it thinks the first is N.
So that's a different problem from mine.

TimeHorse said:
Also, I learned on a clutch so I'm used to hitting a petal to shift. :)
Don't tell me you put your left foot on the brake pedal! :lol: Nissan was very thoughtful. They put in that special immoveable "pedal" over next to the door just for folks like us who learned on a stick shift.

Ray
 
planet4ever said:
TimeHorse said:
Also, I learned on a clutch so I'm used to hitting a petal to shift. :)
Don't tell me you put your left foot on the brake pedal! :lol: Nissan was very thoughtful. They put in that special immoveable "pedal" over next to the door just for folks like us who learned on a stick shift.

Less useful if they put the hand brake there (the emergency break is on the left side of the floor in my 2001 Avalon and had to get used to kicking air in my LEAF for a while in transition).
 
drees said:
trentr said:
I don't mind the extra shift to ECO, but then I also have to press the annoying VSP to turn off and then press that MODE climate control button once to change air direction to blow on my face instead of my feet. I don't know why it defaults to blow down all the time. And then don't get me started in lowering the temperature to maybe 62, turning the fan on to low and finally double checking the energy screen to make sure climate energy is 0. But then on other days, I actually need A/C so, I have to raise the temperature up. Rinse and repeat depending on the weather outside. This is probably why I get dizzy driving this car..
LOL - summed up very nicely. :) I agree on all points - would love to be able to just blow fresh air through the vents without any risk of AC or heat coming on (in addition to defaulting to ECO, turn off VSP, push OK on nav, push Auto on A/C, then Recirc when I want recirc).

I feel like I'm prepping a plane for takeoff when I'm getting ready to go:

1. Press Brake
2. Put on seatbelt
3. Push Start
4. Turn off VSP
5. Push OK on nav
6. Check Mirrors
7. Release parking brake
8 Wait for parking brake light to go out
9. Check dash for warning lights
10. Set destination in NAV
11. Put in reverse
12. Check camera
13. Check mirrors
14. Look over shoulders
15. Put in Drive
16. Put in ECO
17. Push Info button
18. Push Energy monitor button
19. Turn on radio
20. Push Info/Energy monitor buttons again
21. Forget notebook in garage
22. Repeat 1-20 again


Her ya go, try this one:


FUEL GAUGE , HOBBS METER SQUAWKS: check Battery : Connected

FUSELAGE CABIN RIGHT SIDE
RIGHT STATIC PORT: condition ( 7 holes )
CABIN DOORS WINDOWS: condition and security
LANDING GEAR: condition ground landing wheels removed

FUSELAGE CENTER RIGHT SIDE
HYDRAUDIC RESERVOIR: oil level
HYDRAULIC SYSTEM FILTER: bypass indicator retracted
HYDRAULIC ACTUATOR & LINE: condition security, interference, leakage
FORWARD FAIRING: secured
ACCESS DOOR: secured
GUNS: Safed, Forward, Elevated
TRANSMISSION AREA
TRANSMISSION: oil level and area for leaks
TRANSMISSION & MOUNTS: security and condition
ISOLATION MOUNT: condition
DRAG PIN: security and evidence of contact with static stop plate
MAIN DRIVESHAFT FORWARD COUPLING: condition and grease leakage color stripe
ACCESS DOOR: secured
AIR INDUCTION COWLING: secured
ENGINE INLET & PLENUM: condition, clear of obstructions
FUEL FILLER CAP: visually check level, secure cap
FUEL SUMP: drain fuel sample

POWER PLANT AREA
MAIN DRIVESHAFTAFT COUPLING: condition and grease leakage color
ENGINE: condition and security of attachments
ENGINE MOUNTS: condition and security
THROTTLE LINKAGE: condition, security, freedom of operation
FUEL CONTROL & GOVERNOR: evidence of leakage
HOSES & TUBING: chafing, security and condition
EXHAUST STACK & CLAMP: security and condition
ENGINE COWL: secure
GENERATOR COOLING SCOOP: clear of debris
OIL TANK: oil level, leaks, security and cap secure
ACCESS DOOR: secured
AFT FAIRING : secured
FLARES: Flare Ports Secured
FUSELAGE AFT RIGHT SIDE
FUSELAGE: condition
TAIL ROTOR DRIVESHAFT COVER: condition and secured
TAILBOOM: condition
HORIZONTAL STABILIZER & POSITION LIGHT: condition and security
MAIN ROTOR BLADE: condition

FUSELAGE FULL AFT
VERTICAL FIN: condition
TAIL ROTOR GUARD: condition and security
ANTI-COLLISION LIGHT: condition and security
AFT POSITION LIGHT: condition
TAIL ROTOR GEARBOX: oil level, leaks and security
TAIL ROTOR CONTROLS : condition security
TAIL ROTOR BLADE: condition Tip block for rivet damage, corrosion and seal conical bearing
IFWARN: Infra-Red Bug test bug set
FUSELAGE AFT LEFT SIDE
MAIN ROTOR TIEDOWN: removed, condition
TAILBOOM: condition
TAIL ROTOR DRIVESHAFT COVER: condition and secured
FUSELAGE: condition
HORIZONTAL STABILIZER & POSITION LIGHT: condition and security
BAGGAGE COMPARTMENT: cargo tied down, door closed
FORWARD TAIL ROTOR DRIVESHAFT COUPLING: condition of splined adapter and Freedom of rotation of witness pin
OIL COOLER BLOWER SHAFT HANGER BEARINGS: grease leakage and overheating
OIL COOLER BLOWER: clear of obstruction and condition
OIL COOLER: condition and leaks
OIL COOLER ACCESS DOOR: secured
AFT FAIRING: secured

POWER PLANT AREA
ENGINE: condition, security of attachments
ENGINE MOUNTS , EXHAUST STACK & CLAMP: condition and security
EVIDENCE OF FUEL & OIL LEAKS
HOSES & TUBING for chafing and condition
LINEAR ACTUATOR & GOVERNOR CONTROL LINKAGE: condition and security
ENGINE ANTI-ICE VALVE & LINKAGE: condition and security
TAIL ROTOR DRIVESHAFT: condition of spline, couplings and freedom of movement
ENGINE COWLING & AIR INDUCTION COWLING : secured
ENGINE INLET & PLENUM: Condition, clear of obstruction

TRANSMISSION AREA
TRANSMISSION & MOUNTS: condition and security, area for leaks
ISOLATION MOUNT: condition
ACCESS DOOR: secured

FUSELAGE- CABIN LEFT SIDE
MAIN ROTOR HUB & YOKE: condition and cracks
PITCH HORN TRUNNION BEARING: wear and security
MAIN ROTOR PITCH LINKS: condition, cracks, and security of attachment bolts
SWASHPLATE ASSEMBLY: condition, security of attached controls, and boot condition
CONTROL LINKAGES TO SWASHPLATE: condition, security of attachment bolts
FORWARD FAIRING AND ACCESS DOOR: secured
CABIN DOORS & WINDOW: condition and security
LANDING GEAR: condition , ground handling wheels removed
LEFT STATIC PORT: condition

FUSELAGE FRONT
EXTERIOR SURFACES: condition
WINSHIELD: condition and cleanliness
BATTERY & VENT LINES: condition and security
BATTERY ACCESS DOOR: secured
PITOT TUBE: cover removed, clear of obstructions
EXTERNAL POWER DOOR: condition and security
LANDING LIGHT GLASS: condition
ANTENNAS: condition and security
MAIN ROTOR BLADE: condition
EXTERNAL POWER: connect (if desired)

INTERIOR CHECK
CABIN INTERIOR: cleanliness and security of equipment
FIRE EXTINGUISHER: secure, charge indicator in green arc
COPILOT CONTROLS (if installed): security and proper installation
CABIN DOORS: secured

ENGINE PRE-START CHECK

FLIGHT CONTROLS: Check freedom , Position for start
THROTTLE: Full open , flight idle , closed
LANDING LIGHT: off
NIGHT SCANNER LIGHT: stow
ENGINE ANTI-ICE: off
HYDRAULIC SYSTEM (Control boost ): off
MASTER AVIONICS: off
ALTIMETER: Set to field elevation
INSTRUMENTS: static Zero
OVERHEAD SWITCHES: off (except anti-collision light on)
FUEL BOOST SWITCHES: on
CIRCUIT BREAKERS: in
FUEL VALVE: on
ROTOR BRAKE: off
CABIN HEATER: off
BATTERY SWITCH: on
CAUTION SWITCH: on test warning light , low rotor horn
CAUTION SWITCH: off
GUNS: Set Off, Safed
ENGINE STARTING

MAIN ROTOR: clear
THROTTLE: Full open , flight idle , closed
STARTER: Engage check for engine oil pressure at 10% N1
THROTTLE: open to flight idle at 15% N1 with TOT at or below 150C
MAIN ROTOR: turning by 25% of N1
STARTER: Release at 58% N1
CHECK ENGINE & TRANSMISSION OIL PRESSURE
STABILIZE at flight idle ( 60% 62% N1 ) for one minute
THROTTLE: open to 70% N1
GENERATOR: on
MASTER AVIONICS: on ( Headsets on )
CRYPTO: Sync Beeps Green
ENGINE RUN-UP CHECK

CAUTION SWITCH: on
CAGE GYRO & GYRO SWITCH: on
POSITION LIGHTS: As required
FUEL BOOST PUMPS: Check individually for pressure & caution light operation
HYDRAULIC CONTROL SWITCH: off , check operation of flight controls
HYDRAULIC CONTROL SWITCH: on
THROTTLE: Full open ( torque below 40% )
GOVERNOR: set to 100% N2
ENGINE ANTI-ICE: on , check TOT rise Switch off
INSTRUMENTS: Check proper readings (3-6-8-10)

ENGINE SHUTDOWN

GUNS: Safed, Elevated, Front
THROTTLE: Flight idle , check full RPM to 65% N1 should take 3 to 5 seconds
CYCLIC & COLLECTIVE FRICTION: hydraulic switch off
BOOST PUMPS SWITCHES: off
TOT: stabilize for 2 minutes
CAUTION SWITCH: off
THROTTLE: close
TOT and N1: decreasing
FUEL VALVE: off
POSITION LIGHT: off
ATTITUDE INDICATOR & GYRO SWITCH: off
GENERATOR: off
APPLY ROTOR BRAKE: below 38% NR
MASTER AVIONICS: off
N1: Zero , then Battery off

PILOT REMAIN AT FLIGHT CONTROLS UNTIL
ROTOR COME TO A COMPLETE STOP
 
After LEAFSCAN is finished, I plan on creating a system that allows user-adjustable powertrain parameters, such as pedal response, regen strength, etc. This will eliminate the need for ECO.

Right now I've already solved the VSP default to off problem, (free) and the press OK problem. (maybe soon) So there isn't much left except the fully autonomous Leaf hack. (self-drives) :lol:

-Phil
 
dgpcolorado said:
I also wish the D and Eco display was higher on the panel so it isn't blocked by a partially turned steering wheel. My preference would be putting it in the upper display.

Or the display colors change from blue to green. How cool would that be!
 
Ingineer said:
After LEAFSCAN is finished, I plan on creating a system that allows user-adjustable powertrain parameters, such as pedal response, regen strength, etc. This will eliminate the need for ECO.

Right now I've already solved the VSP default to off problem, (free) and the press OK problem. (maybe soon) So there isn't much left except the fully autonomous Leaf hack. (self-drives) :lol:

-Phil

One of these days we need to see if it is just a missing wire and button to get the VSD on a 2012. Also, my suggestion for this mod to eliminate the need for ECO is make it so that using cruise control the car will be very weak on hills such that I could effectively change the cruise to be ±5 MPH or so instead of ±1; since by my observation the cruise adjustment is attenuated by the ECO aspect, i.e. in ECO mode the pedal is more sluggish so the Cruise is more sluggish, I think by just increasing the sluggishness of the pedal would do the trick. It wouldn't allow for the ideal ±5 MPH when going up a rather long, steep grade, but at least it would further reduce the time and thus power used to recover speed when the slope is first reached.
 
TimeHorse said:
One of these days we need to see if it is just a missing wire and button to get the VSD on a 2012.

VSD? You mean VSP? Yes, all you need is a momentary button to toggle VSP on a 2012. Adding my circuit to a 2012 defeats VSP but leaves the charging alert sounds just as it does on a 2011. There is even a way to toggle VSP without adding a new button!

TimeHorse said:
Also, my suggestion for this mod to eliminate the need for ECO is make it so that using cruise control the car will be very weak on hills such that I could effectively change the cruise to be ±5 MPH or so instead of ±1; since by my observation the cruise adjustment is attenuated by the ECO aspect, i.e. in ECO mode the pedal is more sluggish so the Cruise is more sluggish, I think by just increasing the sluggishness of the pedal would do the trick. It wouldn't allow for the ideal ±5 MPH when going up a rather long, steep grade, but at least it would further reduce the time and thus power used to recover speed when the slope is first reached.
Reprogramming a new cruise control system from the ground up should be possible, as all the CC signals are available on the CAN bus. Just effectively bypass the VCM's system and implement one from scratch. This way you could set parameters for efficiency.

-Phil
 
CWO4Mann said:
Her ya go, try this one:


FUEL GAUGE , HOBBS METER SQUAWKS: check Battery : Connected

<snip>

PILOT REMAIN AT FLIGHT CONTROLS UNTIL
ROTOR COME TO A COMPLETE STOP
Wow! :shock: Please tell me that you used an actual checklist when going through that preflight/postflight routine. I used to preflight sailplanes but they didn't have engines or guns. As long as the main wing pins and the "Jesus pin" were secure and it passed control checks I was pretty much good to go. Then it was the launch mnemonic:

Altimeter (set to field elevation)
Belts (locked and tight)
Ballast (present if needed)
Canopy (closed and locked)
Cable (hooked and secure)
Controls (free, clear and working properly)
Direction (wind)
Dive brakes (spoilers, closed and locked)

then waggle the rudder for launch. (On a winch it was 0-60 in about two seconds.)
 
Ingineer said:
After LEAFSCAN is finished, I plan on creating a system that allows user-adjustable powertrain parameters, such as pedal response, regen strength, etc. This will eliminate the need for ECO.

Wow, if you can enable me to get full regen on the accelerator pedal and none on the brake, you will be my hero :cool:
 
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Wow! :shock: Please tell me that you used an actual checklist when going through that preflight/postflight routine. I used to preflight sailplanes but they didn't have engines or guns. As long as the main wing pins and the "Jesus pin" were secure and it passed control checks I was pretty much good to go. .... then waggle the rudder for launch. (On a winch it was 0-60 in about two seconds.)[/quote]

All pre-printed, laminated, and attached by a chain :) Different lists for different systems too, different configurations, and different armament systems. The look and shoot helmet HUDs came a long time after my last ride, but I imagine nowadays there is included stuff like "Do NOT engage HUD, unlock gun systems OR watch the crew-chief's ass when she pulls the pitot tube covers." Or something like that.

I like my Leaf checklist:

1. Get in
2. Buckle up
3. Make sure Sig P236 is in center console and loaded
4. Push various buttons until it backs up out of garage.
5. Make it go forward
6. Go fast
7. Give finger to neighbor who idles his diesel dually at 0400 hours.


Cheers,

Dave
 
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