hingisfan
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Anyone have one in the cold with a winter range update???
ILETRIC said:I mentioned the icing on the cake in my original post. Here is the cherry on top: At the click of a button Soul has 3 levels of power steering: sport, normal and Leaf ehm, comfort. No more mushy steering wheel.
Our m/kW is at 4.3 My Leaf was 3.8 Now that is a 100-mile car.
You may begin to cry now.
ILETRIC said:Nope. Normal driving. Never got over 4.0. Now this was a 2011. You have a newer Leaf. It mostly hung around 3.8. I want no 5.0 merit badge. It's a car, not a toy.
You must be hypermiling. Can't do that in Ca. 62 mph minimum or you get run over.
As long as you stay on 198 you may be able to do your 45. Once you hit 5 or 99 thing move much more swiftly.electriccarfan said:I plan on moving to California (Hanford, CA) in April/May.
GerryAZ said:The Kia Soul EV sounds interesting. Unfortunately, Kia is unwilling to sell one to me here in Arizona. I have been looking at new EV's since there is a possibility that my 2011 LEAF will be declared a total loss after being rear-ended. There is not much to choose from if you do not live in California. Leaf is probably still the best choice for my range and usage needs. Besides Nissan and Tesla, the only other options here are Ford Focus (back ordered), Smart (insufficient range), and BMW (less EPA range than Leaf, but may be adequate--will take another look). I will probably stick with Nissan since Tesla is more car and expense than I need and those two companies are the only ones really committed to nationwide EV sales.
Gerry
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: No, stop, you're killing me! Let me guess, you'll be here all week?electriccarfan said:<snip>
I plan on moving to California (Hanford, CA) in April/May. Do they drive fast out there in California?
In general, when freeway traffic allows, the flow is 4-5 miles above the speed limit, although it can be a lot more than that on some freeways at certain times. However, it is possible to pace the semis and drive at say 62-64 or even occasionally as low as 59 in the right lane on I-5 in the Central Valley (70 mph speed limit with lots of people doing 80+, but 55 mph limit if pulling a trailer) without feeling like you're taking your life in your hands, as there's room for people to pass you. Even so, many people won't be comfortable at less than 65. At least, you can do that in good visibility (day) conditions - I wouldn't want to try 60 or less at night unless traffic was flowing near that speed, as people's reactions are slower and their ability to judge distance and closure worse. Unfortunately, lots of idiots don't slow down when it's foggy, and there are multi-car chain reaction pileups as a result.electriccarfan said:I think that'll take a little getting used to for me. I always do the 60MPH speed limit or 5 above, and I just hold that speed (in normal D mode) all the way there (when I rarely used the expressway).
Its too bad that you've left the Nissan Leaf community. I hope the Soul EV is better for your needs. I personally plan on waiting until my lease is up in May 2017 and checking out the 2nd Gen Leaf (to re-lease).
ILETRIC said:As long as you stay on 198 you may be able to do your 45. Once you hit 5 or 99 thing move much more swiftly.electriccarfan said:I plan on moving to California (Hanford, CA) in April/May.
And...it's gonna be hot. Very hot. Central Valley hot. Hope you have the lizzard batt in that Leaf.
GerryAZ said:The Kia Soul EV sounds interesting. Unfortunately, Kia is unwilling to sell one to me here in Arizona. I have been looking at new EV's since there is a possibility that my 2011 LEAF will be declared a total loss after being rear-ended. There is not much to choose from if you do not live in California. Leaf is probably still the best choice for my range and usage needs. Besides Nissan and Tesla, the only other options here are Ford Focus (back ordered), Smart (insufficient range), and BMW (less EPA range than Leaf, but may be adequate--will take another look). I will probably stick with Nissan since Tesla is more car and expense than I need and those two companies are the only ones really committed to nationwide EV sales.
Gerry
eloder said:GerryAZ said:The Kia Soul EV sounds interesting. Unfortunately, Kia is unwilling to sell one to me here in Arizona. I have been looking at new EV's since there is a possibility that my 2011 LEAF will be declared a total loss after being rear-ended. There is not much to choose from if you do not live in California. Leaf is probably still the best choice for my range and usage needs. Besides Nissan and Tesla, the only other options here are Ford Focus (back ordered), Smart (insufficient range), and BMW (less EPA range than Leaf, but may be adequate--will take another look). I will probably stick with Nissan since Tesla is more car and expense than I need and those two companies are the only ones really committed to nationwide EV sales.
Gerry
Smart EDs have hit 100 mile ranges in real-world tests in perfect conditions at city speeds <55mph, and their batteries fare much better through cold weather than Leafs. Highway smart mileage is definitely lower, though not too terrible if your highways are limited to 55. Just like the gas counterpart, the EPA vastly underestimates how they actually do if you drive carefully. (Proud owner of a smart ICE that hits 42 combined mpg lifetime, and hits upper 40s / low 50s on long highway trips - a good 25% higher than EPA estimates on the latter).
I know not everyone likes a smart though, but they're very, very heavily underestimated cars. And they're available nationwide and lease substantially less than a Leaf, though the backorder is pretty vicious for non-CARB states without physical inventory.
I don't really consider the Kia Soul EV worth much of anything, because it's not available nationwide.
Yes.electriccarfan said:Can't you drive over into California, buy one, and drive it back to Arizona?
TimLee said:Yes.electriccarfan said:Can't you drive over into California, buy one, and drive it back to Arizona?
But how are you going to get it serviced.
Read the threads about the LEAF in WV, where dealer has not maintained LEAF certification, to see how big a mess no service can be.
electriccarfan said:I plan on moving to California (Hanford, CA) in April/May. Do they drive fast out there in California? I think that'll take a little getting used to for me. I always do the 60MPH speed limit or 5 above, and I just hold that speed (in normal D mode) all the way there (when I rarely used the expressway).
electriccarfan said:You'd think Nissan would've made all the battery packs the Hot Weather pack.
keydiver said:which Nissan has assured us will last much longer in hotter states.
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