rmay635703 said:WetEV said:Oilpan4 said:You know what this means.
They really aren't worried about and/or don't care about man made climate change.
Money is more important than environmental damage.
In your value system, perhaps.
One of the folks who bought a $3500 IMIEV a couple years ago then got bit by a dramatic increase in registration costs
looked into the fine for having expired registration and it was like $100 and rarely caught in the real world anyway.
My uncle was one of “those guys” silly taxes like this will result in more of “those guys” on the road
Oilpan4 said:The only benefit I see is a brief flood of used EVs hitting the market.
Coinneach said:Evoforce said:Arizona, as of the first of this year, does not have reduced EV registration. Governor wanted more money for Sheriffs dept. Easy money...
We should get breaks, we are not contributing more foul air to the planet. Our type of cars generally cost more new so give us a break...
All we get is $75 for installing a home charger.
Say what? My registration including the DPS (not shurfs) fee was $67. Compare that to the ~$400 I paid for the first year on my 2016 Civic.
webb14leafs said:The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.
Nubo said:webb14leafs said:The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.
Fine, eliminate the gasoline tax and charge ALL owners $1000.
Nubo said:webb14leafs said:The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.
Fine, eliminate the gasoline tax and charge ALL owners $1000.
webb14leafs said:There's just no way to apply this type of tax to EVs.
LTLFTcomposite said:LOL here we go with the Koch bros again
They do like their taxes in Illinois.
The petrol tax s/b a pollution tax so keep it. In addition slap ALL vehicles with the same $1,000 for the roadsNubo said:webb14leafs said:The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.
Fine, eliminate the gasoline tax and charge ALL owners $1000.
webb14leafs said:Nubo said:webb14leafs said:The $1000 figure is insane, but I do understand states that have surcharges. Maintenance on Roads and Bridges are largely funded by gas taxes. We still drive on those roads and should pay our fair share.
Fine, eliminate the gasoline tax and charge ALL owners $1000.
A logical solution that will probably never happen. As I said, the $1000 figure is ridiculous. A usage tax on gasoline has made sense for years, especially when you consider that ligher/fuel efficient cars do less damage to roadways and thus pay less total tax. There's just no way to apply this type of tax to EVs.
LTLFTcomposite said:LOL here we go with the Koch bros again
They do like their taxes in Illinois.
rmay635703 said:Don’t know why people are so hung up on directly charging individuals fees that are labeled “road tax” when that is both inefficient, has an element of fraud, and is regressive to the poor.
Nubo said:In today's world the roads are a public commons and benefit everyone regardless of miles driven or whether or not they even own or drive a car. Roads should be funded from general taxes.
I disagree. That just perpetuates truck use when rail is much more efficient and less polluting.Nubo said:Roads should be funded from general taxes.
I won't be surprised when this $1000 fee IL is proposing doesn't go to road maintenance either.rmay635703 said:It’s a red herring and has to do with mismanagement of all the other tax bases that are meant to fund road repairs that magically get diverted to something else.
+1smkettner said:The petrol tax s/b a pollution tax so keep it. In addition slap ALL vehicles with the same $1,000 for the roads
WetEV said:Nubo said:In today's world the roads are a public commons and benefit everyone regardless of miles driven or whether or not they even own or drive a car. Roads should be funded from general taxes.
Commons? Generally a bad idea.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/162/3859/1243.full
Why do you think cities are looking at congestion pricing?
rmay635703 said:WetEV said:Nubo said:In today's world the roads are a public commons and benefit everyone regardless of miles driven or whether or not they even own or drive a car. Roads should be funded from general taxes.
Commons? Generally a bad idea.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/162/3859/1243.full
Why do you think cities are looking at congestion pricing?
Congestion pricing only works if you include something akin to Kei car laws in the mix, or you loose productivity alongside traffic
The new guy made his billions as a bartender?rmay635703 said:LTLFTcomposite said:LOL here we go with the Koch bros again
They do like their taxes in Illinois.
Our former governor met with them weekly,
When was the last time you called your governor?
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