Yep, it still exists on 2015 Leafs sold in Ireland, per http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?p=416013#p416013.RonDawg said:To further clarify the above post, Nissan eliminated the 80% "Long Life Mode" starting in model year 2014 for North American market cars. I believe it's still available for Leafs sold elsewhere.
Agree.pncguy said:... Seems like a simple software fix to me. Instead of a "timer" you could put in a "SOC" target that the charger would charge to.
pncguy said:THIS is the sort of thing that makes me SOOOOO crazy with government regulation. In order to get a higher number for marketing purposes, Nissan had to remove a useful feature from our vehicles that doesn't affect maximum range AT ALL. :?
pncguy said:THIS is the sort of thing that makes me SOOOOO crazy with government regulation. In order to get a higher number for marketing purposes, Nissan had to remove a useful feature from our vehicles that doesn't affect maximum range AT ALL. :?
I certainly can't afford a Tesla, but I have heard they have access to a slider that allows them to charge to any SOC they care to. Seems like a simple software fix to me. Instead of a "timer" you could put in a "SOC" target that the charger would charge to.
Nubo said:In this case I entirely agree with the EPA. Nissan were basically saying you were damaging the car by going over 80%. So it was right for them to have to limit their range estimates to reflect that.
powersurge said:I have been living with my 2015 for the past year and 15K miles. I say F!@# that 80% "recommended" maximum SOC. I tried doing that when I just got the car, for 2 months and it made me CRAZY!! I used a timer to control how long to have my 120 volt charger run. Leaving the house with only an 80% charge each day WAS STUPID! Why should I limit my range AND have a daily headache to calculate SOC just because it "MAY HELP" my delicate baby battery last longer.
Today, I drive the car about 70-80 miles per day, use the free Chargepoint stations, and have a 30A level 2 charger at home. I plug the car in, let it charge to 100% (the chargers turn themselves off automatically), and each time I drive off in a fully charged car with NO HEADACHES. So, if charging the car to 100% (a value which Nissan themselves set) is bad for the battery, then if it fails "prematurely", I will let Nissan give me a friendly new replacement under warrantee. I would love to see headlines that Nissan refuses a warrantee battery because the owner charged the battery higher than 80%!! That would make news....
Personally, I feel like this owner-self-imposed 80% limit of charge is making people voluntarily get less car for the money that we paid for the car. Its almost like buying a mountain bike and not riding it in the dirt so as to not get it dirty, or buying new shoes and only walking "heel-to-toe" so they do not get scratched....
Charging the lithium-ion battery full on a daily basis despite the lithium-ion battery keeping a high state of charge level (98-100%).
RonDawg said:Charging the lithium-ion battery full on a daily basis despite the lithium-ion battery keeping a high state of charge level (98-100%).
keydiver said:RonDawg said:Charging the lithium-ion battery full on a daily basis despite the lithium-ion battery keeping a high state of charge level (98-100%).
Yes, but I don't think that would ever hold up in court, seeing how all newer Leafs will ONLY charge to 100%. How would Nissan explain that to the judge?
On the other hand, I just can't believe that Nissan is so lasy or disinterested in the Leaf that they don't just put in a slider, just like my Tesla, so you could select any charge level you want. How hard could that coding be?? Once I get my new battery, I'll probably go back to 80% charging, but it would be nice to have the option for say 90% instead. 90% would be 12.5% more range than 80%, but will still be low enough SOC that it shouldn't harm the battery if the Leaf sits for too long.
Yes, but I don't think that would ever hold up in court, seeing how all newer Leafs will ONLY charge to 100%. How would Nissan explain that to the judge?
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