Stoaty
Well-known member
I went with $5,000 to be happy, $3500 a bargain, not too interested at $7000. However, this is all theoretical, because I expect my Leaf to meet my needs just fine for a lot longer than 5 years (fingers crossed).
cwerdna said:From: "Nissan North America, Inc." <[email protected]>thankyouOB said:what is the subject line and what does it say on the from line?
please
Sender: "Nissan North America, Inc." <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "Nissan North America, Inc." <[email protected]>
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Subject: Your Feedback is Valued! Nissan LEAF Battery Survey
In the bottom of the email, there is a link "To opt-out of the Nissan LEAF Research Panel" and another "To opt-out of all Nissan communications". Perhaps some that didn't receive it opted out of that or something else?
I've definitely received other legit Leaf surveys from Nissan before (that others and I have discussed), have been to Leaf test drive events and paid the $99 deposit 2x (and been refunded both times, in the end).
thankyouOB said:i save about 2k a year in gasoline but i wouldnt want to pay for four years of gasoline to buy a battery. i would want a greater savings.
does that make sense to others?
mwalsh said:thankyouOB said:i save about 2k a year in gasoline but i wouldnt want to pay for four years of gasoline to buy a battery. i would want a greater savings.
does that make sense to others?
Yes. But saving money was not my primary goal. Getting off gasoline was my primary goal. Saving money while doing it is a bonus, but not a necessity.
I replied based on keeping the old cells. I expected a core charge question somewhere in the survey too, but it was never asked. I'd expect ~25% credit for turning in the old cells.mwalsh said:...Funny that no mention was made of trade-in value for our existing packs, no?
Assume it were possible to extend capacity loss coverage through an extended service contract.
The extended service contract would give you an additional 2 years coverage over current (total period of 7 years) at a cost of $30 a month to be paid during years 6 and 7 and cover you if capacity loss dropped below 8 bars of capacity (out of 12) and or 60%.
In this case, how interested would you be in extending your capacity loss coverage?
Based on your previous responses you typically charge your Nissan LEAF to 100% and acquire approximately 74 miles range.
What is the minimum driving range that you require to meet your daily driving needs?
Example: If you require the Nissan LEAF provide 40 miles range minimum to meet your daily driving needs, please slide the bar to 40.
You mentioned previously that when the battery capacity is no longer covered by warranty and if you experienced capacity loss leaving you with 60 miles that you would be interested in replacing the Lithium Ion battery with a new 24kWh battery giving you approximately the same range that your Nissan LEAF had when it was new.
If Nissan offered you the opportunity to rent a battery replacement by making monthly payments for as long as you own your Nissan LEAF, instead of a one time payment, with $0 down at signing guaranteeing you at least 70% battery capacity for as long as your own your LEAF, how interested would you be in taking advantage of this offer?
At what monthly payment (for as long as you own your Nissan LEAF with $0 down at signing), would you be willing to rent a new 24kWh Lithium Ion Battery?
Note: Based on this offer, if the Nissan LEAF battery capacity fell below 70%, Nissan would replace your battery at no additional charge.
Please slide the bar to indicate your ideal monthly payment.
thankyouOB said:Regardless of the survey, which i dont have, the Nissan pricing must address these issues:
value of old pack on trade-in
cost of installation
cost of replacement pack
whether replacement pack is new, used or reconditioned.
also, Nissan must NOT leave us at the mercy of dealership pricing on this.
the pricing should be fixed.
from insurance coverage of battery removal for painting, we know that removal, storage and reinstall can range to some ridiculous numbers. I cant find the record for my repair but i recall 3k.
from previous thread that discussed what Chelsea should ask Nissan about battery replacement costs:
--what does a new battery cost installed?
--what does a refurbished battery cost installed?
--how does Nissan compute the value/credit for a used battery; are all used batteries equal in value if turned in?
--Finally, and most importantly, will these costs be standardized by Nissan or are we at the mercy of the dealership?
Note: Two folks on this forum (myself one of them) reported a very wide disparity for battery removal and replacement during an accident repair.
one was charged ~$3400 and the other ~$1200--different dealers working with different collision shops. the more expensive one was working with a corporate owned shop and dealership under the same national banner.
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kubel said:I'm hoping for $4500 for a replacement pack. Any more than that, and I'll stick with leasing. I really want to BUY an electric car and keep it for 10+ years, since I think they would last a long time, but with battery packs behind a huge unknown, I can't risk it. So I'm stuck with a lease.
Impossible. You may still have 12 capacity bars, meaning you have over 85% capacity, but you have definitely lost capacity... unless perhaps you kept the Leaf in dry ice and never drove it.adric22 said:And since I still have 100% capacity after 2 years, I would imagine my leaf will be pretty darned old by the time the battery needs replacing.
kubel said:I'm hoping for $4500 for a replacement pack. Any more than that, and I'll stick with leasing. I really want to BUY an electric car and keep it for 10+ years, since I think they would last a long time, but with battery packs behind a huge unknown, I can't risk it. So I'm stuck with a lease.
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