cordero said:I have a week of May 2 delivery estimate. I have not had car wings open up? I logged into the Owners portal but no vehicle yet?
Congratulations! I tried calling CS repeatedly on 4/20 as well, but was never able to get through "due to heavy call volume". I did manage to get another credit card to go through a few hours later, but that delay pushed me back to October (which then slipped into November).Boomer23 said:I certainly feel your frustration, Amary. In fact, I had the same AMEX issue on 4/20 when I tried to reserve. I called CS frantically at the time and was able to get a supervisor, who assured me that my reservation wouldn't be affected, though I'd have to wait 7 to 10 days for them to clear up the issue with AMEX card. Thankfully, I did manage to get an early September order date and eventually a March 30 delivery.
That was my thinking, too. But their announcement of having test fleets out in 2011 made me think they actually have been quietly working on this for a while and just didn't "pre-announce" as far out as Nissan did. A lot of Honda's technology actually comes from their FCX, which they've been developing since 1999. That's an electric car — just one that gets its electricity from hydrogen fuel cells instead of lithium ion batteries. Also, I understand that Honda's next-generation (2012) hybrid platform is a "full" (series-parallel) hybrid (like Toyota's Synergy Drive) vs. their "mild" (parallel) hybrid IMA platform, and that they will offer plug-in hybrids. So that means they already have all the technology. They just need to put in larger batteries (from suppliers who have more experience making batteries than Nissan does) and remove the ICE. (I was previously looking forward to the Prius Plug-in, but its battery-only range is only 13(!) miles.) I don't think Nissan ever fleet-tested the LEAF. They seem to be using the early adopters as their "beta" testers. (Which is one reason I actually was fine being a few months (but not 7!) behind the first pioneers.)Boomer23 said:Just my opinion, but on your comment about Honda/Acura catching up with Nissan, I'd advise caution in concluding that Honda will deliver a satisfactory EV within the next 12 to 18 months. Honda has been saying that EVs are not the answer and now they are playing catchup. At the LA car show, they showed an electrified Fit with some "me too" electronics that were trying to mimic what the LEAF has. An electrified FIT will likely suffer from issues of too much weight and interior packaging and space compromises similar to the electrified Ford Focus. Honda hasn't announced or shown any running prototypes, just a mocked-up Fit with a plug in port. At this point, 18 months ahead of the first deliveries of the LEAF, Nissan already had running prototypes and test "mules" that were being driven at test events and shown to reporters. Combine that with Nissan's long history in EV and battery development compared with Honda's lack of interest in anything beyond their IMA hybrid technology (not designed to run in EV mode only, as opposed to Toyota's hybrid design), and I think it will be 2 to 3 years before Honda has a competitive EV to the LEAF.
Yeah, that's what I figured. It's just that my enthusiasm is pretty much gone at this point after all the Nissan screw-ups, their failure to make good on them, and the total inability of Nissan CS (Maritz) to be able to provide real answers or to get me to anyone who can, much less anyone with any authority — probably exactly what Nissan pays them to do. Maybe, as others have suggested, I might be able to be one of the first to get a 2012 LEAF, instead. If Nissan were to offer me that (at the same price), it would go a long ways towards "making good" on all the frustration and grief they've put me (and others) through…Boomer23 said:I'd be frustrated at Nissan, as you are, but I think you'll forget all of that when you get your LEAF and realize what a terrific car it is.
Boomer23 said:Just my opinion, but on your comment about Honda/Acura catching up with Nissan, I'd advise caution in concluding that Honda will deliver a satisfactory EV within the next 12 to 18 months. Honda has been saying that EVs are not the answer and now they are playing catchup. At the LA car show, they showed an electrified Fit with some "me too" electronics that were trying to mimic what the LEAF has. An electrified FIT will likely suffer from issues of too much weight and interior packaging and space compromises similar to the electrified Ford Focus
LEAFfan said:cordero said:I have a week of May 2 delivery estimate. I have not had car wings open up? I logged into the Owners portal but no vehicle yet?
When did you reserve and order? If you happen to be a 2011 orderer, Nissan may have taken your LEAF to give it to an earlier orderer. As soon as I was given a 'week of' date, I received my VIN and could register with Carwings.
Ditto thatGroundLoop said:Nissan email is spotty (unless it's advertisement/marketing).
I also have May 2, no Carwings, no owners portal.
Turbo3 said:Things are moving again. From May 2 to May 6 but now I have a VIN (2191) and Carwings is open. Of course, no email about any of this from Nissan.
Turbo3 said:Things are moving again. From May 2 to May 6 but now I have a VIN (2191) and Carwings is open.
From what I see on the current Spreadsheet I think I have the highest VIN.
kmp647 said:those vins are pretty high
wonder what the highest vin on the current lot could be?
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