Adrian
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LEAFfan said:Adrian said:I think prices at the public fueling stations for CNG in UT and OK are low enough that the driving costs should be about equal to the Leaf. The dry lubricated Fuelmaker units don't have oil, so no oil-carryover issues which lead to more frequent maintenance (expensive high and low pressure filter changes).
Your 2008 doesn't have a low pressure fuel filter (2001 and newer), only the high which is practically useless (between cig and cigar size). That's great you can fill at home because like I said earlier there are stations that are 'dirty'. Those home fueling stations are only good for a certain amount of fills and then something expensive in them has to be replaced.
Even with the a little over a dollar prices in UT and OK, the LEAF is still less expensive to drive just comparing the fuel prices. I drive for free, but even at .07-.12/kW h a LEAF would still be less expensive to drive. Now add all the maintenance you'll have with the CNG cars, and there's just no comparison. And even though it's the cleanest burning ICE in the world, it isn't cleaner than a LEAF charged with PVs or other renewables.
My 2008 has both a low and high pressure filter. I also have a 2000 GX, which you're correct, does not have the low pressure filter. And yes, The Leaf is cheaper to drive even leaving maintenance out of the equation. Unfortunately my wife's commute is 95 miles round trip, with no possibility of EV charging at work, so the Civic GX gives her access to the car pool lane, has less emissions than a diesel or gasoline car and costs me about $1/GGE with home fueling. As soon as there's a 150-200 mile range affordable (Tesla S is beyond my budget) EV out there, I'll replace my wife's Civic as well.