danrjones
Well-known member
I've been making a spreadsheet with what I call "Real World" EV Ranges.
I've never felt the EPA number does any justice. For pretty much any new EV the city range is far more than you will ever need, so what I care about is rural highway and freeway range. To that end, I put together a table using data from ABRP (A Better Route Planner).
I put the same route and conditions in - mostly a highway freeway route at 70 mph, and run it for all the EVs. Divide out based on the % used to get the total range. These are notional but interesting. I would expect older EVs to be more accurate as ABRP has more data. I'm also not sure how ABRP handles the cold, and whether it takes into account heat pump or lack thereof. Don't get too riled up over the numbers but feel free to discuss.
EV / 20 deg C Range (Miles) / 0 Deg C Range (miles)
3 LR / 290.3 / 272.7
Y AWD LR AWD / 243.2 / 225.0
S LR / 333.3 / 300.0
Mach E LR RWD / 281.3 / 230.8
Mach E LR AWD / 257.1 / 214.3
Mach E SR RWD / 214.3 / 180.0
Kona / 219.5 / 183.7
Niro / 209.3 / 173.1
Leaf (2018->) / 115.4 / 100.0
Leaf Plus / 173.1 / 150.0
Ariya LR / 250.0 / 219.5
ID4 / 230.8 / 191.5
Bolt / 225.0 / 187.5
Bolt EUV / 204.5 / 173.1
Q4 Etron / 219.5 / 183.7
The "EPA" for those same vehicles:
353
326
402
300
270
230
258
239
149
215
?
250
259
250
?
And the % of the Real vs EPA (for 20 Deg C):
82.2%
74.6%
82.9%
93.8%
95.2%
93.2%
85.1%
87.6%
77.4%
80.5%
?
92.3%
86.9%
81.8%
?
I've never felt the EPA number does any justice. For pretty much any new EV the city range is far more than you will ever need, so what I care about is rural highway and freeway range. To that end, I put together a table using data from ABRP (A Better Route Planner).
I put the same route and conditions in - mostly a highway freeway route at 70 mph, and run it for all the EVs. Divide out based on the % used to get the total range. These are notional but interesting. I would expect older EVs to be more accurate as ABRP has more data. I'm also not sure how ABRP handles the cold, and whether it takes into account heat pump or lack thereof. Don't get too riled up over the numbers but feel free to discuss.
EV / 20 deg C Range (Miles) / 0 Deg C Range (miles)
3 LR / 290.3 / 272.7
Y AWD LR AWD / 243.2 / 225.0
S LR / 333.3 / 300.0
Mach E LR RWD / 281.3 / 230.8
Mach E LR AWD / 257.1 / 214.3
Mach E SR RWD / 214.3 / 180.0
Kona / 219.5 / 183.7
Niro / 209.3 / 173.1
Leaf (2018->) / 115.4 / 100.0
Leaf Plus / 173.1 / 150.0
Ariya LR / 250.0 / 219.5
ID4 / 230.8 / 191.5
Bolt / 225.0 / 187.5
Bolt EUV / 204.5 / 173.1
Q4 Etron / 219.5 / 183.7
The "EPA" for those same vehicles:
353
326
402
300
270
230
258
239
149
215
?
250
259
250
?
And the % of the Real vs EPA (for 20 Deg C):
82.2%
74.6%
82.9%
93.8%
95.2%
93.2%
85.1%
87.6%
77.4%
80.5%
?
92.3%
86.9%
81.8%
?