KeiJidosha
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Thanks for posting the pic's. Nice to know what kind of work to expect. I will call Monday to cancel my order with AV.
kolmstead said:Gary may be right. Good question for AV. At any rate, if you want a 'clean' installation, your contractor will probably have to remove some wallboard, and you will have to pay to have it repaired. In most installations, the feed would need to pass through studs in the wall, and it's pretty tough to drill holes in studs that you have no access to.
I haven't researched the disconnect requirements, but it is worth noting that most such requirements allow a "breaker lock" as an alternative. The quote from NEC 625 earlier in the thread mentions this, for example. A "breaker lock" is a metal bracket that mounts permanently to your electrical panel and allows the use of a padlock to keep the breaker in the off position. They are relatively inexpensive, since it is a just a metal bracket, although it is specific to your electrical panel brand. [Note that there are also universal "breaker locks" that don't mount permanently to the panel; that type is not generally allowed as a substitute for a disconnect.]kolmstead said:I doubt that the disconnect is required in most areas.
Hmm... I guess I should become an electrician. $1200/hr?Adrian said:It took 2 hours of labor, but they still charged $2,400.
palmermd said:For a thousand dollars, I'd expect a much neater installation. All of these photos look like DIY jobs. All the more reason to stay away from AV and go with a good local contractor.
smkettner said:Can someone post a screen shot from the video on how Nissan demonstrates how it will look? See also the surface mount wiring bracket at about 1:22 in the video.
tps said:Hmm... I guess I should become an electrician. $1200/hr?Adrian said:It took 2 hours of labor, but they still charged $2,400.
How long will it be before some manufacturer produces a flush mount EVSE? IMHO, even if the AV unit is wired from behind as shown in the Nissan video, it still sticks out too far from the wall. Although the circuitry wouldn't likely fit in a double gang box, I've certainly installed fairly large flush mount electrical devices, such as electrical space heaters (in the bathroom) and breaker panels.smkettner said:See also the surface mount wiring bracket at about 1:22 in the video.
LTLFTcomposite said:8/2 + G or 8/3 + G romex with a strain relief.
mwalsh said:But that can be ran through a wall (but not in conduit), right?
How do you know there is not a J-box behind the wall with conduit attached?LTLFTcomposite said:The installation shown in that video is bogus and wouldn't pass inspection even though it looks pretty. You can't have those individual conductors running through the wall like that; they would have to either be in conduit, or 8/2 + G or 8/3 + G romex with a strain relief.
Romex can be run through conduit, either just a few pieces used as protection where the cable would otherwise be exposed to physical damage, or a complete conduit system, where the Romex is just treated as a really big wire. The latter case almost never makes sense, though, because once you have a complete conduit system you are better off running individual conductors like THHN.mwalsh said:But that can be ran through a wall (but not in conduit), right?
smkettner said:How do you know there is not a J-box behind the wall with conduit attached?
Or Romex to a J-box and the sheathing is just pealed off?
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