Leaf15
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:20 pm

Just got CPO Leaf 2015 SV with Nav and Bose audio, but no QC for $12.7K in PA. Really like the car and size factor: not too big, not too small, just right. Battery is at 287 GIDs (102.1%), SOH=98.84% after 30,300 miles. Already, put over 1000 miles on it. I specifically bought local car after lease. It was leased from the dealer and returned back to the same dealer, CarFax report is included for free. I did not want QC (would not mind if it had QC, but would not pay for it) as I do not plan to use it for travel and I have ICE cars for that and as backups. Carvana may not be the best venue for EVs, although they sell EVs, they do not take correct pictures of the motor compartment or charger ports, no dashboard shots of capacity indicator. Kind of sneaky about it. Another problem even if you want to physically inspect the car it is may not be possible, because of they do not have customer facing facilities to arrange it. At least they provide CarFax report, so you can figure out its origin.
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Charviolon
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:52 am

I am glad your 2015 Leaf is working out well! I think the size is perfectly fine as well. If the car is not particularly expensive, I would want the QC port as an option to take advantage of increased charging infrastructure coming along in the near future. Currently, when I get the Leaf, it will be metro car, and my Forester will handle the long hauls.

Leaf15
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:46 pm

@Charviolon I researched QC infrastructure around my area of interest and we have only few spots in 25 miles range. Even known one near by at Nissan dealer is almost always off duty or have other cars parked so you can not reach it. L2 chargers are like 100:1 ratio and are all over the place, but they are slow. But sometimes when you poorly plan some trip, or should I say did not plan at all (I would suggest car with built-in GPS as those are EV specific and help in emergency situations) those L2 broad network could come handy, so you can at least make it home after spending 1-2 hours @ L2 charging. I do not blame car, as it is mostly driver mistakes or ignorance in my case.
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Evoforce
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:26 pm

GerryAZ wrote:After reading this whole thread, I recommend that you continue to look for a nice 2015 LEAF. Like the others, I am concerned about long-term reliability of a Tesla out of warranty. Your daily range needs are moderate so a 2015 Leaf would serve you well even after significant battery deterioration. I recommend an SV or SL to get the heat pump HVAC system. Pick whichever model has the features you want. If you get a 2015 SV or SL, there is no cost to have Nissan replace the original cellular modem with a 3G unit so that you can use remote access.


This is one time Gerry and I might disagree. I would not be concerned about a Tesla's long term reliability out of warranty unless it has a branded title.
*2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi @ 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.
*Tesla Model S 61,000 mi
*2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 mi) Now 35,485 mi

Charviolon
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:31 pm

It is interesting that you mention Tesla regarding its reliability. There is a local wholesaler who brings in pre-owned Teslas frequently, and I recently saw a 2014 S 85 with over 70k miles on the odometer. It looked to be in great shape, and the ride was nice. But without a warranty, what am I supposed to do when little repairs come up - or a wreck, Heaven forbid - and the closest service center is hundreds of miles away? I find it interesting that you do not feel that a post-warranty Tesla purchase is problematic. I welcome more of your thoughts here! And please explain your exception, too. Thanks.

Charviolon
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:18 am

I finally got the 2015 S Leaf a few days ago! I am, finally, an EV owner, and the price came down to a far more reasonable $12999. It was not fully charged when I drove it off the lot, and it has been a bit problematic keeping it charged along the way as I have no home charging mechanism at this point. Any recommendations for home charging? I have a carport, not a garage. Thanks.

alozzy
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:07 am

What type of existing electrical connections do you have in your carport? If only 120V, you can trickle charge with the stock EVSE (charger).

If you want to charge faster (16A @240V), then you'll likely need to get an electrician to wire a NEMA 14-30R (or NEMA 14-50R).

For a 2015 LEAF S, a NEMA 14-30R is really all you need as the onboard charger (OBC) is limited to a 3.6 kW charging rate. Note that the stock EVSE won't do 240V charging, so budget $200 for a 240V @ 16A portable EVSE accordingly.
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
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LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D

SageBrush
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:45 am

Leaf15 wrote:Just got CPO Leaf 2015 SV with Nav and Bose audio, but no QC for $12.7K in PA. Really like the car and size factor: not too big, not too small, just right. Battery is at 287 GIDs (102.1%), SOH=98.84% after 30,300 miles

These number sound too good to be true. Recheck with LeafSpy in a couple of months or perform a charge test from VLB warning
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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Reddy
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:05 pm

Charviolon wrote:I finally got the 2015 S Leaf a few days ago! I am, finally, an EV owner, and the price came down to a far more reasonable $12999. It was not fully charged when I drove it off the lot, and it has been a bit problematic keeping it charged along the way as I have no home charging mechanism at this point. Any recommendations for home charging? I have a carport, not a garage. Thanks.

Congratulations! If you drive less than about 40-50 mi/day, the stock 120V-12amp cord will work (I've been doing this for nearly 7 years). Just be careful to use a dedicated plug, make sure it's in good shape, tight connections, and mount the EVSE to the wall so that the weight doesn't pull on the plug/receptacle. On the other hand, using a 30 or 40 amp 240V unit, while more expensive, is a requirement for faster charging and longer daily distances.
Reddy
2011 SL; 9 bar, 45.80 AHr; 45,000 mi; rcv'd Aug 18, 2011
Long: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... al#p226115"
Cold: http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 60#p243033"

Leaf15
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Re: Looking at certified pre-owned 2015 Leaf

Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:53 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Leaf15 wrote:Just got CPO Leaf 2015 SV with Nav and Bose audio, but no QC for $12.7K in PA. Really like the car and size factor: not too big, not too small, just right. Battery is at 287 GIDs (102.1%), SOH=98.84% after 30,300 miles

These number sound too good to be true. Recheck with LeafSpy in a couple of months or perform a charge test from VLB warning

I did originally and did a couple weeks ago and I am being already through couple of VLB to Full during 1.5 month now and my range keeps going up and at some point was 105 miles with eco on & climate off . 100 miles range is pretty much a norm. I am charging once every 3-4 days with 20 miles/day commute. Although I am getting a bit sophisticated in EV driving with average 6.1+ miles/KWH. Do not know if this is common or an exception with 2015 Leaf though.
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