DaveinOlyWA wrote:Nissan IS selling their LEAFs in the upper teens. Sure its thru a combination of discounts and fed credits but the result is still the same. This is no different than any other manufacturer providing discounts, right?
There is nothing wrong with this and it is EXACTLY this process that has been used for decades to sell cars.
Enter LEAF II; nearly the same price (We all know only a token price hike from MY to MY is acceptable) but much shinier options which adds a few K to the sticker. But again, discounts, etc will bring the car to market value. At least Nissan understands this.
Chevy OTOH is gambling that 60 kwh will blind consumers into making that leap and for those who have the tax liability, its a very good option to consider but that leaves a HUGE niche of customers unable to get the full $7500 out in the cold and every day, the Chevy advantage shrinks. So is Chevy pulling it off? Hard to say since the market is still small but they are already in most of the EV hotbeds and what is the results? I have to say I see minimal excitement in WA.
To add to that; Chevy is pocketing the fed credit for consumers on leases. IOW, double dipping.
So the option faced is take a leap of faith and buy Version 1.0 at premium prices
Didn't do it with LEAF 1.0 and not gonna start now.
I'm not a fan of the credits because you shouldn't need that as an excuse to buy one of these cars and that's assuming you are entitled on getting the credit back in the first place. Not ever state has incentives either, so that also should not be an excuse to buy one. These credits would not be needed if they cars were priced better to begin with. A loaded Bolt will set you back over $42,000 and that's just crazy.
People are still leary of this technology, for a variety of reasons, and that's not going to be offset by extremely high purchase prices. It's like the Volt - it has Chevy's highest customer satisfaction ever recorded, has received any number of automotive awards, top crash test results, etc. and they still can't move enough of them. The Bolt seems to be going the same way - already receiving awards and accolades, but not too many sales (the fact it isn't available in all states yet isn't helping that).
It's hard to convince someone to buy an electric for a premium price when they can buy an ICE car sitting next to it, loaded to the gills with all the options, at a lower price.
I want an EV, but they are simply too expensive for poor blokes like me. Like I said above - purely my opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs