johnlocke
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2019 Leaf

Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:17 pm

A 2019 Leaf was spotted in a charger test. It seems that the 2019 leaf does use LG battery modules, has active TMS, and can charge at 100KW rate. It was spotted at a Charger Manufacturer undergoing testing. The battery is approximately 60KWH and the onboard charger is either 11KW or 22KW. The 11KW charger is probably for the US market while the 22KW charger is likely for multi-phase charging in Asia and Europe. 11KW is enough to charge to 100% overnight anyway. 22KW charging could be 480VAC single phase as well but that tends to be an industrial voltage.
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

kennethbokor
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Delivery Date: 30 May 2018
Location: Caledon, ON Canada
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Re: 2019 Leaf

Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:40 pm

Yes here is link to article.

https://electrek.co/2018/07/06/nissan-l ... -charging/

Hope it is real.
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jonathanfields4ever
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Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:55 pm
Delivery Date: 15 Feb 2018
Location: Kyoto

Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:26 am

If this is real, it’s going to make my next purchase decision very difficult. The plan is to get a Model 3 and hand the 40kWh Leaf over to my wife. If the price is good, I may go with this instead. The unlimited charging plan Nissan offers here is great, and it’s generally much cheaper to insure domestic vehicles... Hrmmmmmmmm.

GetOffYourGas
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Location: Syracuse, NY

Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:36 am

It looks like the 2019 Leaf will be everything I hoped the 2018 to be. Too late for me, Nissan. But I hope it will sell well!
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

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TomT
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Leaf Number: 000360
Location: California, now Georgia
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Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:30 am

I'd want to see a track record and details on the TMS first... Nissan doesn't exactly have a stellar battery record...

GetOffYourGas wrote:It looks like the 2019 Leaf will be everything I hoped the 2018 to be. Too late for me, Nissan. But I hope it will sell well!
59,991 miles/12 bars/289 Gids/68.54 AHr/101% SOH/101.64% Hx 7May15 w/ new Lizard (barely made the warranty).
71,770 miles/12 bars/256 Gids/59.04 AHr/88% SOH/87.92% Hx 3Mar16 at lease return.

Now driving a 2016 Volt Premier. Model 3 reserved.

GetOffYourGas
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Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:05 am

TomT wrote:I'd want to see a track record and details on the TMS first... Nissan doesn't exactly have a stellar battery record...

GetOffYourGas wrote:It looks like the 2019 Leaf will be everything I hoped the 2018 to be. Too late for me, Nissan. But I hope it will sell well!


Certainly fair. My 2012 lost about 20% in 6.5 years. That's more than I'd hope, but frankly less than I expected in 2012. At that time. Nissan was saying 20% in 5 years.

Assuming that the 2019 is better, it should lose capacity at a slower rate than the DCFC infrastructure is filling in. On the net, the car will still be getting better over time.
~Brian

EV Fleet:
2011 Torqeedo Travel 1003 electric outboard on a 22' sailboat
2012 Leaf SV (traded for Bolt)
2015 C-Max Energi (302A package)
2017 Bolt Premier

johnlocke
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Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:51 pm

Anyone considering a 2019 Leaf should be thinking Lease not Buy. Consider it a three year test drive. With the high depreciation on a Leaf that we've seen so far, there's a good chance that you would be able to negotiate a better deal to buy out the lease (if you liked the car) then an outright purchase would give you anyway. If there are problems with the battery or cooling system or even if you just don't like or need it any more, hand it back to the dealer after three years and walk away. Given the reputation of the Leaf's battery and Nissan's reluctance to stand behind the product, leasing makes a lot more sense than a purchase.
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

DarthPuppy
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Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:22 pm

This would finally be what we were promised - beating the Bolt. Unfortunately, it is a bit too late. Since the 2018 Leaf wasn't quite adequate, I now have a Clarity PHEV. So this will have to wait until the next car replacement, which would likely be our 2013 Leaf. Of course, the 2019 would be a huge upgrade versus that. And given how happy we are with that one, I think getting the newer one will be a very tempting choice. But I think our 2013 has a few more good years yet, so who knows what will be the choices in 2021'ish.
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armmynissanleaf
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Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:26 pm

What kind of battery cooling system will it have?
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jonathanfields4ever
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Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:55 pm
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Location: Kyoto

Re: 2019 Leaf

Mon Jul 16, 2018 9:20 pm

armmynissanleaf wrote:What kind of battery cooling system will it have?


The rumor is that it’s essentially the same set up as the BMW i3, but from LG Chem instead of Samsung. I suppose that would make it NMC, which is what the 2018 Leaf is rumored to have (without cooling, of course).

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