TonyWilliams wrote:I love the EVgo network, and I really don't like going to broken / crowded free sites. I particularly like that they have now installed over 900 DC fast chargers.
I pay just $14.95 per month, and 10 cents per minute. My cost per mile using EVgo is on par with me charging at home at about 6.5 cents per mile. A typical fillup in my new 2017 LEAF-S is just 30-45 minutes, so just $3 to $4.50. Just using it twice per month pays that monthly fee, and everything after that is really cheap.
I'll happily support such a low cost, widely dispersed charging infrastructure, and you're welcome to contribute what you do.
annabel398 wrote:Oddly, I have never encountered a Volt/Bolt at that station--do they not have QC ports?
finman100 wrote:Bolt will have the CCS frankenplug as a 'quick charge' port option. To date, I see WAY more Chademo DC chargers than the CCS type. A sprinkling of Dual DC chargers (both CCS and Chademo plugs) are popping up in OR and WA. And you still can only use one at a time! Really? And people wonder why EV adoption is hard.
So if a Bolt needs a 90 min "quick charge", and yes, I'm using my air quotes 'cause that ain't fast, then a Leaf or Soul or iMiEV are waiting (all these use Chademo). or looking for the next nearest DC charger. Just my 1.5 cents worth.
PS Yes, I know a Bolt doesn't HAVE to charge to full everytime. a 20 minute session could surely net as much as a Leaf? But do the owners know this? or care they are holding someone up when they have enough to get to their destination. WAY too many times EVs are PARKED, not charging, blocking a spot. And this is in OR, where we actually have a law against that! Never enforced. very, very frustrating. I've left many notes indicating as such. The actual law spelled out in a printable pdf. I've lost count on the number I've left on offending vehicles. okay, rant over...
GRA wrote:finman100 wrote:Bolt will have the CCS frankenplug as a 'quick charge' port option. To date, I see WAY more Chademo DC chargers than the CCS type. A sprinkling of Dual DC chargers (both CCS and Chademo plugs) are popping up in OR and WA. And you still can only use one at a time! Really? And people wonder why EV adoption is hard.
So if a Bolt needs a 90 min "quick charge", and yes, I'm using my air quotes 'cause that ain't fast, then a Leaf or Soul or iMiEV are waiting (all these use Chademo). or looking for the next nearest DC charger. Just my 1.5 cents worth.
PS Yes, I know a Bolt doesn't HAVE to charge to full everytime. a 20 minute session could surely net as much as a Leaf? But do the owners know this? or care they are holding someone up when they have enough to get to their destination. WAY too many times EVs are PARKED, not charging, blocking a spot. And this is in OR, where we actually have a law against that! Never enforced. very, very frustrating. I've left many notes indicating as such. The actual law spelled out in a printable pdf. I've lost count on the number I've left on offending vehicles. okay, rant over...
In California, most eVgos now have two separate dual-standard (CHAdeMO/CCS) chargers and at least one has 4, so things are improving. Doesn't help for a car with a big battery that needs more than 30 minutes of charge. eVgo has started to build 350kw chargers (even if they're not yet usable by the public).
To Tony: Does the monthly plan not limit you to increments of 30 minutes followed by shut off? That's going to be important for Bolt owners.
redLEAF wrote:On a Bolt, Chevy says you'll get about 90 miles in 30 minutes on DC/QC and at least on the few QC stations I used with my LEAF in the NW 'burbs of Chicago in the past; all of them will stop after 30 minutes; you would need to go back and restart each 30 min session (actually all were dual mode where they also had a CCS connection as well) <snip>
http://www.chevrolet.com/bolt-ev-electric-vehicle.html
GRA wrote:redLEAF wrote:On a Bolt, Chevy says you'll get about 90 miles in 30 minutes on DC/QC and at least on the few QC stations I used with my LEAF in the NW 'burbs of Chicago in the past; all of them will stop after 30 minutes; you would need to go back and restart each 30 min session (actually all were dual mode where they also had a CCS connection as well) <snip>
http://www.chevrolet.com/bolt-ev-electric-vehicle.html
The 90 miles in 30 minutes that Chevy quotes is predicated on having at least an 80kW charger, and the currently available eVgos are only 50kW max (44kW real world). As the woman who described her experience driving from San Jose to SoCal and back shows, using eVgo chargers she needed two 30 minute sessions to get to 80%. I know that the Flex plan (in Cal., QC is $4.95 session plus $0.20/minute, or $10.95) stops after 30 minutes; is that what you have, or do you have the On the Go plan ($14.95/month plus $0.10/minute) that Tony has? His post implied that he could go beyond 30 minutes without re-starting, or at least that's how I read it.
edatoakrun wrote:
...Can Bay area LEAF owners conveniently drive to Reno/Tahoe?
Can SoCal owners recharge on the the way to Las Vegas?
You owners in other states, aren't there logical "early adopter corridors" where L3 would be useful? Are the chargers there, or even in the planning stage?...
A great virtue of EV's is the utility of being able to charge at home, whether you choose level 1 or 2 home charging.
But the greatest drawback of EV's will always be limited range, making the PUBLIC infrastructure crucial.
...As part of its mission to improve energy conservation and promote new energy technologies, Japan’s largest public research and development management organization — New Energy and Industrial Technology Development Organization (NEDO) — is funding “DRIVETHEARC” project...