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hyperionmark said:https://electrek.co/2017/10/11/tesla-model-3-first-used-listed-150000/
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hyperionmark said:https://electrek.co/2017/10/11/tesla-model-3-first-used-listed-150000/
hyperionmark said:I think I have maybe realized the real reason people on here hate Tesla much more than any other forum. You all paid a ton of money for your 84 mile range vehicle, which is probably now about 60 miles. Now, for not much more money you can purchase a 210 mile vehicle with a good charging infrastructure. It's sour grapes, pure and simple.
That, or the other obvious reason....you are a little jealous of the people that can afford Teslas. It's easy and popular to put down things that only rich folk can afford.
You are mistaken.edatoakrun said:Shouldn't have sold it when you dd, if you were concerned about cost per mile.dgpcolorado said:... I bought a LEAF back in 2011 because I wanted to support EVs and to drive on "sunpower." It was very expensive for the miles I drove it, given the massive depreciation, but it was fun.
In fact, My 2011 has been less expensive to own than any comparable ICEV would have been over ~6.5 years, though an exact TOU calculation can only be done at resale.
Sorry, but I think you are delusional, even with the (unusual) state subsidy you received (right?) when you bought your S used.="dgpcolorado"
The used Tesla has had less depreciation and more miles, so it figures to be cheaper per mile overall.
Ask TSLA what it will give you as a trade in, or check actual selling prices, to see the continuing rapid depreciation of your Tesla.
New Ss and Xs cost most owners over a dollar or a mile in TCO, used ones and model 3s should be expected to do somewhat better.
A Leaf, new or used, should cost most owners 25% to 50% as much as any Tesla over similar miles driven, or time owned.
Nope. I don't hate Tesla but I am a realist. I leased my first Leaf, a '13 SV w/both packages for 2 years. It was $314/mo (including taxes and fees) * 23 payments and $0 down. There was the $395 disposition fee at the end after turn in. So, total outlay for lease, not including (very minimal) maintenance, insurance, and 2nd year's registration was ~$7617.hyperionmark said:I think I have maybe realized the real reason people on here hate Tesla much more than any other forum. You all paid a ton of money for your 84 mile range vehicle, which is probably now about 60 miles.
There was no 200+ mile EPA range BEV in the US at a Leaf-like price range until the Chevy Bolt in Dec 2016. Even now, good luck getting a Model 3 as a non-Tesla/SpaceX employee at all, let alone for a Leaf-like price.hyperionmark said:Now, for not much more money you can purchase a 210 mile vehicle with a good charging infrastructure. It's sour grapes, pure and simple.
Nope, not jealous. I can easily afford to buy a new Model S w/cash. No loan or lease required. No thanks.hyperionmark said:That, or the other obvious reason....you are a little jealous of the people that can afford Teslas. It's easy and popular to put down things that only rich folk can afford.
hyperionmark said:I think I have maybe realized the real reason people on here hate Tesla much more than any other forum. You all paid a ton of money for your 84 mile range vehicle, which is probably now about 60 miles. Now, for not much more money you can purchase a 210 mile vehicle with a good charging infrastructure. It's sour grapes, pure and simple.
That, or the other obvious reason....you are a little jealous of the people that can afford Teslas. It's easy and popular to put down things that only rich folk can afford.
hyperionmark said:https://electrek.co/2017/10/11/tesla-model-3-first-used-listed-150000/
hyperionmark said:You sound like our dear president with those lies. Please show me sources that show that Tesla owners are spending anywhere close to those other owners on maintenance. Every single Tesla owner I know have spent literally $0 on upkeep, unless you count some occasional washer fluid. Please stop spreading lies. Have some integrity.LTLFTcomposite said:A noted oddity of Tesla owners is that many have spent more on their cars than they ever would have otherwise, which totally belies concerns by Audi, Mercedes or BMW that market share was at their expense. There appear to be a lot of millionaire next door types in that mix who could afford any car they want but normally opt for more frugal choices, which probably accounts for their acquired wealth to a large extent. Tesla may be taking more market share from Honda and Kia than German luxury brands.
lpickup said:hyperionmark said:https://electrek.co/2017/10/11/tesla-model-3-first-used-listed-150000/
Well there's one Tesla employee that felt like risking his or her job then! I suppose if you were ready to quit anyway, you might as well take $100K profit from it!
Somehow the wording of my post "spent more on their cars" got interpreted as maintenance costs. I was referring to the purchase price.DaveinOlyWA said:hyperionmark said:You sound like our dear president with those lies. Please show me sources that show that Tesla owners are spending anywhere close to those other owners on maintenance. Every single Tesla owner I know have spent literally $0 on upkeep, unless you count some occasional washer fluid. Please stop spreading lies. Have some integrity.LTLFTcomposite said:A noted oddity of Tesla owners is that many have spent more on their cars than they ever would have otherwise, which totally belies concerns by Audi, Mercedes or BMW that market share was at their expense. There appear to be a lot of millionaire next door types in that mix who could afford any car they want but normally opt for more frugal choices, which probably accounts for their acquired wealth to a large extent. Tesla may be taking more market share from Honda and Kia than German luxury brands.
I know one Tesla owner waffling over whether he was going to do a REQUIRED maintenance that would run him $900...
DaveinOlyWA said:hyperionmark said:You sound like our dear president with those lies. Please show me sources that show that Tesla owners are spending anywhere close to those other owners on maintenance. Every single Tesla owner I know have spent literally $0 on upkeep, unless you count some occasional washer fluid. Please stop spreading lies. Have some integrity.LTLFTcomposite said:A noted oddity of Tesla owners is that many have spent more on their cars than they ever would have otherwise, which totally belies concerns by Audi, Mercedes or BMW that market share was at their expense. There appear to be a lot of millionaire next door types in that mix who could afford any car they want but normally opt for more frugal choices, which probably accounts for their acquired wealth to a large extent. Tesla may be taking more market share from Honda and Kia than German luxury brands.
I know one Tesla owner waffling over whether he was going to do a REQUIRED maintenance that would run him $900...
LTLFTcomposite said:What is this then?
https://www.tesla.com/support/maintenance-plans
Here's my answer:LTLFTcomposite said:I have a question Mr dgpcolorado if it isn't being too nosey: had EVs not existed would you have spent what you did on your Tesla on an ICE car? What sort of car would you have otherwise bought?
I disagree with "REQUIRED" and I disagree with the price you've quoted.DaveinOlyWA said:I know one Tesla owner waffling over whether he was going to do a REQUIRED maintenance that would run him $900...
I don't think so, don't you see a table with a maintenance schedule on that page?webeleafowners said:LTLFTcomposite said:What is this then?
https://www.tesla.com/support/maintenance-plans
I don't see anything at that link regarding required service of a Tesla. I saw mutilple offers for optional service plans, similar to what every car manufacturer marketing department offers. Did you put up the wrong link?
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