GaslessInSeattle said:the leaf sure could use a range boost about now! a hundred+ real highway miles would be a nice bump!!
TomT said:Not before 2015 at the earliest... More likely when the 2016 redesign comes out...
GaslessInSeattle said:the leaf sure could use a range boost about now! a hundred+ real highway miles would be a nice bump!!
GaslessInSeattle said:by 2016, I'd expect something closer to 200 real world miles. I think people need to see some real incremental improvement in battery capacity, not just energy efficiency improvements that improve range only under certain circumstances.
Look how big the Model S is - it is 1 ft longer than a Camry !pkulak said:I think cost just needs to go down. Look at how many batteries Tesla can cram into their cars.
evnow said:Today even Tesla can't put a large battery in a compact. Checkout Mercedes Class B electric. It will have a smaller battery than the RAV4 EV.
GaslessInSeattle said:by 2016, I'd expect something closer to 200 real world miles. I think people need to see some real incremental improvement in battery capacity, not just energy efficiency improvements that improve range only under certain circumstances.
TomT said:Not before 2015 at the earliest... More likely when the 2016 redesign comes out...
GaslessInSeattle said:the leaf sure could use a range boost about now! a hundred+ real highway miles would be a nice bump!!
GaslessInSeattle said:by 2016, I'd expect something closer to 200 real world miles. I think people need to see some real incremental improvement in battery capacity, not just energy efficiency improvements that improve range only under certain circumstances.
At some point in the distant future we will be laughing that we bought an electric car with 75 mile range for $30k. But for 2016 100 mile freeway range is a good estimate, given the battery technology rumors.GetOffYourGas said:Dream big or go home I guess. I doubt this will happen. I'm betting price will drop a little more (not as much as '12-'13 though), and we'll get to a real-world 100 miles. We might see 200 miles by the end of the decade. Or we might not without a price premium.
Now, there's a more realistic dream by 2016. Possibly even by 2015. I'd also throw in a more heat-resistant battery, though that might eat up the additional price drop.GetOffYourGas said:Dream big or go home I guess. I doubt this will happen. I'm betting price will drop a little more (not as much as '12-'13 though), and we'll get to a real-world 100 miles. We might see 200 miles by the end of the decade. Or we might not without a price premium.GaslessInSeattle said:by 2016, I'd expect something closer to 200 real world miles. I think people need to see some real incremental improvement in battery capacity, not just energy efficiency improvements that improve range only under certain circumstances.
[/quote]GaslessInSeattle said:the leaf sure could use a range boost about now! a hundred+ real highway miles would be a nice bump!!
I certainly agree. The daily discussion between my wife and I over who gets the Leaf today has made me think of looking for a 2011 60,000+ mile multi-bar loser for my 37-mile RT commute. If I can get in for around $10,000 and have at least 15KWh, it should work even in the dead of winter (probably, I would hope).donald said:Another reason it'll be good if 200 mile range EVs do come onto the market is because it'll kill the resale values of second hand 100 mile range EVs!!!
The reason that's good is because 100 miles is proving enough for me (and, clearly, many others here) so we'll have more low-cost EV purchasing options in the future!!
GaslessInSeattle said:the leaf sure could use a range boost about now! a hundred+ real highway miles would be a nice bump!!
Bicster said:Every time I see a Rogue, I wish that had been Nissan's BEV platform.
rslatkin said:I think it should be the Juke!
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