ishiyakazuo said:Fair enough... hard to search inside the images for the VIN
This isn't my first internet rodeo, my friend
ishiyakazuo said:Fair enough... hard to search inside the images for the VIN
TonyWilliams said:Here's how I would proceed:
1) compile most, but not all the data against the dealer in writing. I would specifically leave out the recorded messages.
2) Get an attorney. Yes, it will cost a bit of money.
3) Meet with dealership management, your attorney, and yourself to reach a mutual agreement based on the facts.
4) The dealership will promptly tell you that you were NOT told that it had a new battery (guaranteed)
5) Write up a synopsis of the meeting and send to dealer certified mail, signature required. In letter, once again present your case (less recordings) and the results of meeting
6) File lawsuit, naming dealership and individuals who told you that it had a new battery
7) Demand all legal fees, blah, blah, and negotiate a settlement (return car or new battery)
8) Prepare for court if necessary, and have that recording ready to go (assuming it has the required disclaimers to record in California). Don't settle for anything that doesn't make you "whole in every way".
* attorney fees
* administrative costs
* car rentals for substandard car
* traveling costs
* any other remedies permitted by California law
9) You are looking for a settlement so that the situation isn't dragged out for YEARS. Your attorney will advise.
10) Trump Card - video showing exactly how dealers reset the battery degradation, and a bunch of expert witnesses to present it. I will volunteer my time if you get to this point.
Good luck getting a dealer to go along with it. I would buy or borrow a gidometer. Gids don't lie. SOH can lie for up to a day, bars up to six months but I've never seen a degraded battery report high gids on a full charge - even after BMS reset.pkulak said:but I'll be taking it on an 80-mile test drive before I buy it. Or a 45-mile test drive.
TickTock said:I would buy or borrow a gidometer. Gids don't lie. SOH can lie for up to a day, bars up to six months but I've never seen a degraded battery report high gids on a full charge - even after BMS reset.
Am I the only one who read this line and thought "someone needs to make a parody song (and perhaps video) of Shakira's 'Hips Don't Lie' with this title?" It would be THE video on how to buy a used LEAF.TickTock said:Gids don't lie.
TickTock said:Gids don't lie.
mwalsh said:But Nissan will still refuse to accept them
kuri said:Can anyone point me towards any documentation that outlines the functions of the "Inverter control unit" or the "Intelligent Power Distribution Module" ?
I just talked to them again, and now they're trying to claim that since they replaced those, it's the same thing as replacing the battery, so they didn't really mislead me, it was just a misunderstanding. I think we all know that's a load of bullshit, but I need to find some proof that there's no way that could in any way be considered the same thing.
Just my 2¢ worth, but I'm inclined to agree with Tony that finding an attorney (one who drives a Leaf or other BEV) may be adviseable. The dealership is almost certainly going to have one (or more). At the very least I would spend some time calling attorneys for advice as they are sometimes very generous with their time, even without being formally retained.kuri said:I know that, but every little bit of ammunition helps man. I want to bury these idiots.
kuri said:Can anyone point me towards any documentation that outlines the functions of the "Inverter control unit" or the "Intelligent Power Distribution Module" ?
I just talked to them again, and now they're trying to claim that since they replaced those, it's the same thing as replacing the battery, so they didn't really mislead me, it was just a misunderstanding. I think we all know that's a load of bullshit, but I need to find some proof that there's no way that could in any way be considered the same thing.
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