I see no sign of a 2021 Leaf there, but they have several 2022 SV40s, at least one with Tech Package, for $31k after discounts and before the Federal credit.
cwerdna said:Indeed, there are a bunch of murmurings on chevybolt.org about this. It's possible and if so, its early demise would've been because of the battery recall. Otherwise, there'd have been no reason to the design and engineering work to refresh the Bolt EV and come out with the Bolt EUV to not even have it sell for an entire model year.
It really was a shame that they didn't improve the DC FC speed. 55 kW max on a ~65 kWh battery is simply not competitive for model year '22. If they were able to up to ~70ish kW, at least it'd be competitive w/Kona EV and Niro EV. <snip>
62% Of 2017 To 2019 Chevrolet Bolts Have Had Their Battery Replaced
The information comes from an NHTSA document that shows replacement rates among newer Bolts are far lower, though.
. . . According to this report from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), discovered by one of our new forum members, Lee Lightfoot, Chevrolet has already replaced the battery pack in 62 percent of affected Bolts built under the 2017 through 2019 model years. Chevy says that last quarter it changed 26,952 battery packs.
If it keeps it up at the same rate, all Bolts built through the 2019 model year will have been fixed (some 50,413 examples are affected). Another document issued for 2021 through 2022 model year affected Chevy Bolts shows that these newer cars haven’t received new batteries yet - just 701 swaps were performed out of a total 52,414 pool of affected vehicles.
Most of the cost of the replacement batteries (around $1.9-billion out of a total estimated cost of $2-billion) will be supported by LG Chem, the company that supplied the packs to General Motors. It also worked with the manufacturer to discover the problems that cause the fires, which were eventually narrowed down to possible broken anode tab or a folded separator.
Owners of Bolt EVs equipped with the new battery are also reporting a range increase with the fresh pack. When our own Tom Moloughney took part in a range test of a Bolt with a newly replaced battery, he found that post swap it was able to travel for around 13.5 percent longer than before.
As it previously announced, Chevrolet restarted Bolt EV and Bolt EUV production at the start of April and all new vehicles feature the fixed battery pack, the one that is now being installed in older Bolts.
General Motors on Wednesday slashed the price of its 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV, likely making it the least expensive electric vehicle on sale in the U.S.
The Detroit automaker cut the price of the Bolt EV by $5,900 and of the larger Bolt EUV by $6,300.
The reductions come as automakers, especially pure EV companies, hike prices on their electric vehicles amid changing market conditions and rising commodity costs.
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The Detroit automaker cut the cost of the Bolt EV to a starting price of $26,595, down $5,900 from the 2022 model year. GM also reduced the price of its larger Bolt EUV by $6,300 to start at $28,195. All pricing includes a mandatory $995 destination charge.
cwerdna said:GM slashes prices of Chevy Bolt electric vehicles despite rising commodity costs
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/01/gm-slashes-prices-of-chevy-bolt-evs-despite-rising-commodity-costs.html
General Motors on Wednesday slashed the price of its 2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV, likely making it the least expensive electric vehicle on sale in the U.S.
The Detroit automaker cut the price of the Bolt EV by $5,900 and of the larger Bolt EUV by $6,300.
The reductions come as automakers, especially pure EV companies, hike prices on their electric vehicles amid changing market conditions and rising commodity costs.
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The Detroit automaker cut the cost of the Bolt EV to a starting price of $26,595, down $5,900 from the 2022 model year. GM also reduced the price of its larger Bolt EUV by $6,300 to start at $28,195. All pricing includes a mandatory $995 destination charge.
That's been speculated about for awhile on Bolt forums and FB groups. Folks aren't expecting substantial improvements esp. when it comes to DC FC speeds. People are pointing to Ultium as to where their efforts are going and are making assertions that those newer BEVs will be cheaper for GM to make.danrjones said:For the bolt experts here, is this GM saying goodbye to the Bolt? A Firesale, no pun intended?
cwerdna said:The 45% to 80% was your problem. Full speed is only from achievable up to about 50%. After that, it starts tapering unless you're using a very low powered (e.g. ~25 kW) charger.
Video at https://electricrevs.com/2018/07/17/watch-a-bolt-ev-at-a-chargepoint-express-250-charge-at-up-to-55-kw/ is about the best can Bolt do prior to updates. With IIRC, '20+ Bolts and I believe older Bolts with updates that would be installed as part of 80% temp limiter or replacement pack, I hear the drops are smoother and not sharp any longer.
I can't speak to the DC FCs you used. If it wasn't sufficiently powerful or there was something wrong with it, you won't hit 54 or 55k W.GRA said:If it takes 45 minutes (checking my notes I see it was actually 47 minutes, from 7:18 - 8:05 p.m.) to charge from 45-80%, it's going to take considerably longer to charge from 20-80%, which is what I'd be typically trying to do on a road trip given adequately-spaced chargers. As it was, at 45% it was charging at 44kW, so not that far down from the 55kW peak. Assuming it could charge from 20-45% @ 55kW the whole time it would take another 18 minutes, and in real life with taper somewhat longer. Thus, even the best case would take 1:05 from 20-80%, and as the car can only drive about 2 hours using that charge range, that means 2 hours driving/1:05 charging, and repeat. That simply doesn't cut it for road trips requiring multiple charging stops, if you actually need to get somewhere with minimum downtime.
BTW, this was a brand new (54 miles on the odometer when I picked it up from the owner, 559 when I started the charge described) 2020 Bolt.
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