cwerdna
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Thanks! That one has numerous other quotes and covers more current events than the below.WetEV said:
cwerdna said:
COVID-19 aka 2019 (and 2020) Novel Coronavirus
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DaveinOlyWA
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One of the best laughs I have had during this crisis is the new republican claim that trump was distracted by the impeachment proceeding and that caused his less than capable pandemic response. IOW; the republicans are now admitting our leader cannot handle more than one thing at the same time.
They did conveniently forget to mention his several campaign stops and golfing rounds mixed into this very same time period.
I am really leaning towards calling him Nero; while the country burns down around him, he has got to get his exercise in.
They did conveniently forget to mention his several campaign stops and golfing rounds mixed into this very same time period.
I am really leaning towards calling him Nero; while the country burns down around him, he has got to get his exercise in.
cwerdna
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It also doesn't help that right-wing media like Fox News and right-wing pundits like this guy were trying to downplay everything as well, knowing their audience:DaveinOlyWA said:
Take a look at the change of tone.cwerdna said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifKbwDf51bA AND
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2020/03/17/fox-news-coronavirus-coverage-carlson-hannity-watters-orig.cnn-business
Just think how many millions if not tens of millions of Americans they directly and indirectly influenced...
cwerdna
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Now, per https://www.kut.org/post/44-70-austinites-who-flew-mexico-spring-break-have-now-tested-positive-covid-19, 44 of them have COVID-19.cwerdna said:
Not sure if this has been posted yet. It's about 8.5 minutes long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItE7Q_USZpU
It came from https://www.ktnv.com/news/coronavirus/las-vegas-award-winning-filmmaker-creates-eerie-video-titled-coronavegas. I'm about 4 minutes through it. It is eerie indeed and very sad. I feel really bad for all the folks there who are now unemployed.
For quite some time, I'd go to Vegas once a year for CES in January. Long ago, I'd go there either for Comdex (long gone, last show was in 2003) in November or CES, which had been in Vegas in January for ages.
LTLFTcomposite
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President Trump, Drs Fauci and Birx posture of optimism and problem solving resonates with far more people than the left praying for a big body count, finger pointing, and looking for opportunities to usurp freedom and take control over every aspect of people's lives.
Pro tip: When you are a Mayor or a Governor *you* are the first line of responsibility for disaster preparedness and response. That doesn't mean running to a microphone and pawning the problem off on Washington.
President Trump was right about the China travel ban and it's starting to look like he was right to be optimistic about the antimalarials.
We'll get through this.
Meanwhile it looks like China has decided to just "let it rip" and make anyone who reports the real stats disappear. Witness the Tesla factory's record numbers. Given the ineffectiveness of medical interventions (other than antimalarials) it will be interesting to see whether the difference in outcomes was worth destroying this country.
Pro tip: When you are a Mayor or a Governor *you* are the first line of responsibility for disaster preparedness and response. That doesn't mean running to a microphone and pawning the problem off on Washington.
President Trump was right about the China travel ban and it's starting to look like he was right to be optimistic about the antimalarials.
We'll get through this.
Meanwhile it looks like China has decided to just "let it rip" and make anyone who reports the real stats disappear. Witness the Tesla factory's record numbers. Given the ineffectiveness of medical interventions (other than antimalarials) it will be interesting to see whether the difference in outcomes was worth destroying this country.
The CEO of 3M was on CNBC this morning with Cramer and Faber. He said they ramped up production (doubling it) of masks starting in Jan on their own initiative based upon their view of the situation, then shifted all the industrial versions to a medical version after getting approval to do that at the end of Feb. No price increase and no hoarding by 3M, they have stepped up to meet the needs here and around the world.
So why did bonespurs pull out his twitter whip on them this morning as if they were not patriotic? Some bozo on his favorite TV channel made false claims about 3M last night.
"Every people get the government they deserve" seems true with the apprentice in charge.
So why did bonespurs pull out his twitter whip on them this morning as if they were not patriotic? Some bozo on his favorite TV channel made false claims about 3M last night.
"Every people get the government they deserve" seems true with the apprentice in charge.
LTLFTcomposite said:
No, he wasn't right. Not at all. The Orange Buffoon has lied and negated the whole time. He's foolishly dismantled government entities where their entire mission was to try and keep us safe. He is the worst "president" we've ever had and, hopefully, will be the worst this country will ever see for the entire balance of its history. If we get through this, it will be in spite of Trump and his "administration", not because of. I could ask WTF is wrong with you, but I know that would be an exercise if futility.
WetEV
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Bought the USA about a week of time. I agreed with Trump at the time :shock: , but this is only only win Trump has had to date on coronavirus. Trump spent the week gained golfing.LTLFTcomposite said:
The latest f*ckup:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/coronavirus-3m-tells-trump-halting-exports-would-reduce-number-of-masks.html
WetEV
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Pessimism:LTLFTcomposite said:
In mid January, I realized a long planned family trip in March wasn't going to happen because of coronavirus. Makes me a pessimist. Yes, I read the scientific press and don't watch Pox News.
Optimism:
Jan. 22: On whether he was worried about a pandemic: “No, we’re not at all. And we have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China.”
Jan. 24: “It will all work out well.”
China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 24, 2020
Jan. 29: “Just received a briefing on the Coronavirus in China from all of our GREAT agencies, who are also working closely with China. We will continue to monitor the ongoing developments. We have the best experts anywhere in the world, and they are on top of it 24/7!”
Jan. 30: “We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five. And those people are all recuperating successfully. But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for it. So that I can assure you.”
Feb. 2: “Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China. … We can’t have thousands of people coming in who may have this problem, the coronavirus. So we’re gonna see what happens, but we did shut it down, yes.”
Feb. 7: “Nothing is easy, but [Chinese President Xi Jinping] … will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.”
....he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone. Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 7, 2020
Feb. 10: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”
Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”
Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”
Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 24, 2020
Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”
Feb. 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus, including the very early closing of our borders to certain areas of the world.”
Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."
Feb. 26:
Q: This is spreading — or is going to spread, maybe, within communities. That’s the expectation.
A: It may. It may.
Q: Does that worry you?
A: No. ... No, because we’re ready for it. It is what it is. We’re ready for it. We’re really prepared. ... We hope it doesn’t spread. There’s a chance that it won’t spread too, and there’s a chance that it will, and then it’s a question of at what level.
Feb. 27: “Only a very small number in U.S., & China numbers look to be going down. All countries working well together!”
Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. We did something very fortunate: we closed up to certain areas of the world very, very early — far earlier than we were supposed to. I took a lot of heat for doing it. It turned out to be the right move, and we only have 15 people and they are getting better, and hopefully they’re all better. There’s one who is quite sick, but maybe he’s gonna be fine. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate."
Feb. 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
Feb. 29: “We’re the number one travel destination anywhere in the world, yet we have far fewer cases of the disease than even countries with much less travel or a much smaller population.”
March 4: “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.”
March 5: “With approximately 100,000 CoronaVirus cases worldwide, and 3,280 deaths, the United States, because of quick action on closing our borders, has, as of now, only 129 cases (40 Americans brought in) and 11 deaths.”
With approximately 100,000 CoronaVirus cases worldwide, and 3,280 deaths, the United States, because of quick action on closing our borders, has, as of now, only 129 cases (40 Americans brought in) and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 5, 2020
March 6: “We did an interview on Fox last night, a town hall. I think it was very good. And I said: ‘Calm. You have to be calm. It’ll go away.' ”
March 7: “It came out of China, and we heard about it. And made a good move: We closed it down; we stopped it. Otherwise — the head of CDC said last night that you would have thousands of more problems if we didn’t shut it down very early. That was a very early shutdown, which is something we got right."
March 8: Retweets a story about Surgeon General Jerome Adams playing down the risk of coronavirus for Trump personally.
Surgeon General Jerome Adams used his comments to downplay the risk of coronavirus to the president https://t.co/PA6a3Dv7gz
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) March 8, 2020
March 9: “The Fake News Media and their partner, the Democrat Party, is doing everything within its semi-considerable power (it used to be greater!) to inflame the CoronaVirus situation, far beyond what the facts would warrant. Surgeon General, ‘The risk is low to the average American.’ ”
March 9: “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”
So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 9, 2020
March 10: “As you know, it’s about 600 cases, it’s about 26 deaths, within our country. And had we not acted quickly, that number would have been substantially more.”
March 10: “And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”
March 12: “It’s going to go away. … The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”
March 13: Says the Food and Drug Administration “will bring, additionally, 1.4 million tests on board next week and 5 million within a month. I doubt we’ll need anywhere near that.”
March 14: “We’re using the full power of the federal government to defeat the virus, and that’s what we’ve been doing.” Also retweeted supporter Candace Owens, who cited “good news” on the coronavirus, including that “Italy is hit hard, experts say, because they have the oldest population in Europe (average age of those that have died is 81).”
March 15: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”
March 16: “If you’re talking about the virus, no, that’s not under control for any place in the world. … I was talking about what we’re doing is under control, but I’m not talking about the virus.”
March 17: “We’re going to win. And I think we’re going to win faster than people think — I hope.”
March 23: “America will again and soon be open for business. … Parts of our country are very lightly affected.”
March 24: “You’re going to lose a number of people to the flu. But you’re going to lose more people by putting a country into a massive recession or depression.”
On seeking to reopen portions of the American economy by April 12: “It’s such an important day for other reasons, but I’ll make it an important day for this, too. … I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter.”
March 25: “There are large sections of our country — probably can go back to work much sooner than other sections. … It’s hard not to be happy with the job we’re doing, that I can tell you."
March 26: “They have to go back to work; our country has to go back. Our country is based on that, and I think it’s going to happen pretty quickly.”
“I have a feeling that a lot of numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be. I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators.”
March 29: “So you’re talking about [worst-case scenarios of] 2.2 million deaths, 2.2 million people from this. And so if we could hold that down, as we’re saying, to 100,000 — it’s a horrible number, maybe even less — but to 100,000. So we have between 100 and 200,000, and we altogether have done a very good job."
March 30: “New York is really in trouble, but I think it’s going to end up being fine. We’re loading it up, we’re stocking it up. … And then by a little short of June, maybe June 1, we think the — you know, it’s a terrible thing to say, but — we think the deaths will be at a very low number. It’ll be brought down to a very low number from right now, from where it’s getting to reach its peak.”
DaveinOlyWA
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cwerdna said:
No different than hundreds of other locations across the country. I took a drive thru downtown Seattle last Saturday afternoon. It was a near ghost town. Pikes Place, Waterfront, Seatac; all but abandoned. Maybe a total of one hundred people out and about thru all of the downtown area when normally on a good weather Saturday, there would be well over 100 people per block.
Thanks for all that effort, WetEV. Though you probably know you’re wasting your time, right?
DaveinOlyWA said:
We drove by Disneyland at 11am last Thursday morning. Ours was the only car going in our direction on Harbor Blvd. One of my wife's grandsons did a ride-by on his bike at around 7pm on Saturday night and it wasn't any different. If anybody in a "tourist town" ever needed to see how utterly dependent the local economy is on tourism, this should be a very rude awakening.
WetEV
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Probably. I've read 1984.mwalsh said:
WetEV
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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/can-china-return-normalcy-while-keeping-coronavirus-check
WetEV
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Hate immigrants, yes? Deport them all, right?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/health-science/immigrant-doctors-want-to-help-fight-the-coronavirus-visa-restrictions-wont-let-them/2020/04/03/77184a05-6bde-4011-b8ab-f89332757a23_video.html
One set of regulations Trump is unlikely to ease.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/health-science/immigrant-doctors-want-to-help-fight-the-coronavirus-visa-restrictions-wont-let-them/2020/04/03/77184a05-6bde-4011-b8ab-f89332757a23_video.html
One set of regulations Trump is unlikely to ease.
DaveinOlyWA
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WetEV said:
Cross your fingers. I fear that China has jumped the gun. We shall see where they are next week.
WetEV
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I don't know.DaveinOlyWA said:
Trump loses, he tries to bury the past. Trump wins, he weaponizes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/opinion/coronavirus-fake-news.html
Nubo
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LTLFTcomposite said:
Why don't you resonate with optimism and problem-solving then, instead of that crazy accusation?
It's true, there is literally Trump tweet for everything. Although, I'm not sure he expected all this while he was "president".
