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... :lol:Nubo said:... doing eco-penance ...
... :lol:Nubo said:... doing eco-penance ...
I contend that on a website for an EV, it is nearly impossible to excessively "extrapolate everything to its maximal conclusion", and even so, pointing out paint color and how it relates to heat absorption or reflections wouldn't be in that category. It has a rather large effect.Nubo said:retrodog said:Why are people in hot climates interested in any color other than white or silver. Anything else is going to end up using more energy to cool the interior. Are we trying to save energy or not?
To conserve energy only up until the point that it starts to impact your image is not much different than a Hummer driver who recycles his beer cans. ...
There's a saying, "Perfection is the enemy of the good".
Sometimes we have a tendency to extrapolate everything to its maximal conclusion. I often bicycle to work, about 3 hours per day of riding. At work I'm on the 2nd floor. People get seriously confused when I take the elevator.
"If you bike to work, why wouldn't you take the stairs?"
Well, A: It's not a religion. B: With 3 hours a day of good exercise, climbing one flight of stairs hardly matters.
Same with Leaf color choice. There are so many benefits that accrue in terms of emissions, efficiency, economy of power expenditures staying in our economy, balance of trade, geopolitical implications, mitigating and forestalling the societal impacts of Peak Oil, etc... A few watt-hours here or there based on color choice is splitting hairs.
That being said, I am leaning towards white for the heat rejection. Not because I'm doing eco-penance, but for 2 other reasons. First, I tend to expect that the AC in the car will be adequate, but not overpowering. Second, I'd rather not waste range unnecessarily.
AndyH said:retrodog said:Why are people in hot climates interested in any color other than white or silver. Anything else is going to end up using more energy to cool the interior. Are we trying to save energy or not?
To conserve energy only up until the point that it starts to impact your image is not much different than a Hummer driver who recycles his beer cans. It might be to a far lesser degree, but it's the same concept. I live in Houston and can't make up my mind between silver and pearl white. The light blue is pretty but that's just too girly for me. :lol:
There's one suggestion somewhere on the forum that the interior color has more impact on cabin temperature than outside color. :?
leaffan said:AndyH said:retrodog said:Why are people in hot climates interested in any color other than white or silver. Anything else is going to end up using more energy to cool the interior. Are we trying to save energy or not?
To conserve energy only up until the point that it starts to impact your image is not much different than a Hummer driver who recycles his beer cans. It might be to a far lesser degree, but it's the same concept. I live in Houston and can't make up my mind between silver and pearl white. The light blue is pretty but that's just too girly for me. :lol:
There's one suggestion somewhere on the forum that the interior color has more impact on cabin temperature than outside color. :?
That someone either hasn't had a dark color exterior vehicle and lived in a hot climate or they never use sun shades for the windows. I've taken temps with the SAME interiors and the white exterior car was ten to fifteen degrees cooler than the red every time.
According to the National Safe Kids Organization, if the ambient
temperature is 79 degrees F, car interiors can reach the following
temperatures!
White Interior 135 degrees F
Red Interior 154 degrees F
Blue/Green Interior 165 degrees F
Black Interior 192 degrees F
http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content3/news3/temperatures.safety.all.html
Rake said:I also love the copper color idea.
Also would like to see a deep cobalt blue.
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