RegGuheert said:
edatoakrun said:
I hope that in ~five years BEV drivers (and those who are not) will finally understand there is no reason to have a charger in your BEV at all.
No, thanks! I want a charger in my car if for no other reason than the convenience of being able to plug in anywhere...
Having the charger in-car is really not a convenience, it imposes multiple
limitations. on BEVs.
Where kW rates are available at the charge site at higher rates than the on-board charger, the slower onboard charger is only a bottleneck preventing faster charging. It often prevents the desirable kW rate for any BEV at any charge site, which is either the maximum the grid infrastructure at that location supports, and (far less frequently) the maximum the battery will accept (~48 kW for A ~24 kW pack like the LEAF's) both subject to kW cost/rate considerations.
An on-board charger can not be used to charge other BEVs (yours, or other drivers') while you are not using it, making its use extremely costly and inefficient, by requiring us to collectively pay for many more chargers than are necessary to service all BEVs public charging requirements.
An on-board charger adds large additional costs, weight an complexity to BEVs, and almost all of them probably will be thrown away when the BEVs reaches the end of their useful life.
An on-board charger will never allow vehicle-to-grid kW transfer, which will add additional value to the significant investment (the bigger the pack, the greater the benefit) every BEV owner has made in their battery pack.
The "waste" heat produced from the on-board charger is not recoverable, while, if the on-site charger is properly located, this heat can be recovered to meet the needs of the human passenger activities while they are charging.
As I mentioned before, before the transition to on-site chargers is complete, you may want to carry a portable charger with you, especially when driving in remote areas.
At some point in the future though, I expect that notion will probably seam about as qaint as carrying your own fuel pump and hose with you,
just in case the gas station you are headed to doesn't have any fuel pumps on-site.
Edit: re-posted on-topic at:
Take my on-board charger...PLEASE!
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