smkettner
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WetEV said:Dealer: Wait! Wait! Wait! I just found out we can take those off! Please come back in and sit down.
My answer.... how long will it take to repair the screw holes with new aluminum? SeeeYa
WetEV said:Dealer: Wait! Wait! Wait! I just found out we can take those off! Please come back in and sit down.
WetEV said:LTLFTcomposite said:I have always found it hard to get anyone to negotiate over the phone
Don't use the phone, use mail or email. Do not negotiate, you are asking for bids.
"This is exactly what I want. Please reply with your total price, including all taxes, all fees and any other changes."
LTLFTcomposite said:No doubt they want to avoid being played against other dealers in a phone bidding war.
If they don't want to bid, they don't get the sale. Their choice. No negotiation, they bid or they don't bid.
awesome thanks for the info. its opening my mind on getting what i want and not worrying about what the dealer says "is standard" or "mandatory"LTLFTcomposite said:I was a little unsure about driving 45 miles only to get jerked around and have the story change when I got there. The guy assured me that would not happen, and it didn't... we were in and out driving the new car home in well under an hour.
This happened to me twice. The first conversation went something like this:
Dealer: ... and we need to add in this $300 fee.
Me: Really? That is not what your letter to me says right here.
Dealer: Yes, we must add the fee. Blah blah....
Me: (To wife) "The next dealer on the list was only $30 more, and they are on the way home. Let's go."
Dealer: Wait, the sales manager will be back in a few minutes, and maybe he can do something.
Me: Maybe he could if he was here. But he's not, and I'm not waiting. Too bad guy, you just lost a sale. Bye.
(The next dealer on the list cut the price $30 when the wife called on the cell on the way there, and was very very nice.)
The second conversation went like this:
Dealer: And the car has this $200 dealer installed plastic mud flap option...
Me: I don't want that option. Says so here on this email.
Dealer: Oh, but this option is really nice...
Me: I don't want that option.
Dealer: We can't take it off now.
Me: As the email says, any options beyond these are not to be included in the price. So honor your price.
Dealer: I can't do that.
Me: I'll go look at it. (Went outside, looked at bit of plastic attached with two screws, shook head, headed for our car asking the wife where the next dealer on the list was...)
Dealer: Wait! Wait! Wait! I just found out we can take those off! Please come back in and sit down.
LTLFTcomposite said:I've had an even harder time getting them to engage via email. But times may be a changin.
when i email a dealership? and what is that? the manager?WetEV said:LTLFTcomposite said:I've had an even harder time getting them to engage via email. But times may be a changin.
Try snail mail. Address to "Fleet Sales"
acegreatone said:when i email a dealership? and what is that? the manager?
slightly edited real example that worked said:From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Request for quote
Red Nissan Leaf SL
No options
Delivery in 20 to 60 days.
Total payment, including all taxes and fees is _____________?
slightly edited real example that worked said:Price from another dealership is $xxx lower than yours.
Want to quote again?
slightly edited real example that worked said:So if I walk in with a bank check for $xx,xxx the car is mine? That's the full price? Nothing else?
Ohh man the dealers in my area (nyc) do not like this.WetEV said:acegreatone said:when i email a dealership? and what is that? the manager?
Look at the web site of the dealerships. There is likely an email method for contacting them, or a form where you can send a message that they will reply to in email. Put in something like this:
slightly edited real example that worked said:From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Request for quote
Red Nissan Leaf SL
No options
Delivery in 20 to 60 days.
Total payment, including all taxes and fees is _____________?
In a few days, follow up by replying to every dealer that answered and wasn't the low price with an email saying:
slightly edited real example that worked said:Price from another dealership is $xxx lower than yours.
Want to quote again?
And closing the deal with something like this:
slightly edited real example that worked said:So if I walk in with a bank check for $xx,xxx the car is mine? That's the full price? Nothing else?
If email addresses or other electronic contact methods don't work, get the US Mail addresses and try that way.
LTLFTcomposite said:Also being a tough negotiator works well when you are dealing with a commodity car, for example if you want to buy an Altima, they have a couple hundred on the lot and have to sell one to just about everyone who remotely expresses interest. If a vehicle is in tight supply and you walk away they don't care so much.
cwerdna said:Can you update your location info via User Control Panel (near top) > Profile (left side)? That way, we don't need to ask in future posts/threads or do sleuthing to deduce it.
I don't know how much research you've done on this but before even bothering what is your daily commute like? How many miles and how much highway vs. city? Will you be able to charge at your destination(s)?
I'm assuming you can charge at home.
120 at home, for the most part. unless i can run that extention cordcwerdna said:^^^
Are you going to depend on 120 volt charging at home or will it be supplemented by workplace charging?
i plan on installing a charging station at my house. but when it snows we work 12 hr shits for weeks on end last year with hurricane sandy i work 12 hrs shifts for 40 days stright. well i guess i can have my wife take the leaf to work she works closer and only 8hr days. hmmm...cwerdna said:I'm thinking that at 120 volts, once you hit winter, the charging rate will be too slow to keep up w/your demands. Hopefully someone else can chime in on this.
TurboFroggy said:Other sites like http://www.truecar.com show what others have paid for the same make/model in your area as well.
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