LEAFer said:May be ... Nissan has decided they need to give test drives
I don't NEED a test drive. Nissan...send me a car and I'll give a dealer some cash. JOB DONE!
LEAFer said:May be ... Nissan has decided they need to give test drives
Oh... no! This "pet" lives under a sagebrush on the corner of our lot!LEAFer said:Jack-rabbit fails to hear silent EV ... LEAFs run over jack-rabbits ... Jack-rabbit is added to the Endangered Species List :lol:
Yanquetino said:As LTLFTcomposite points out, just ask the EV advocates who have been trusting Aptera, ZENN, or EEStor for years now.
AndyH said:Zenn? EEStor? Please tell me we're really not considering either of these to be 'real'? I'll believe one of these companies will start really shipping products about three days after North Korea opens their borders.
evnow said:AndyH said:Zenn? EEStor? Please tell me we're really not considering either of these to be 'real'? I'll believe one of these companies will start really shipping products about three days after North Korea opens their borders.
You are giving too much credit to ZNN/EEStor :twisted:
Update:We've passed 15,000 Nissan LEAF reservations! Thankyou. We'll be sharing statistics about the reservations throughout the day
Jimmydreams said:I look at the June 30th email this way:
The rollout takes tremendous coordination throughout many departments in Nissan.
NOTHING will be released in an email until it passes through a couple dozen offices/groups and a couple dozen more suits who get to OK or add their two cents worth. (Nissan is, after all, a huge company). THEN it has to get through the legal department....we can't forget those legions of lawyers protecting us from ourselves.
Then and ONLY then does it get released. But all these machinations for the emails don't (or shouldn't) be used as indicators of 'on-time/delayed' status of the vehicle itself....THAT issue goes through ANOTHER few dozen departments/suits/lawyers/unions/etc.
This roll-out is insanely more complicated than I think we are giving Nissan credit for.
Now, this is obviously a "canned," statement, and not a true explanation. Nonetheless, the fact that the operator would copy-and-paste this particular blurb rather than any other seems to confirm my conjecture that Nissan is simply facing more hurdles in laying out the infrastructure than they had anticipated. That is completely understandable.If we wanted to simply sell a vehicle then the roll outs and deliveries would not be accomplished quite simply, this is not what Nissan is doing therefore we are taking some more time to ensure everything is done well. We are forging strategic partnerships with key state, local and regional governments and utility companies designed to jointly work towards the development of an Electric Vehicle infrastructure. Also we highly recommend having out customers install home charging docks in their homes which also requires much planning and coordination. Dealerships also have to be prepared to service and support the new vehicle before deliveries can begin. This is because as an electric car there are new aspects and equipment to consider. There are several layers to the process that result in a market receiving delivery. When we choose a launch market, we are looking for three criteria: an interested consumer base and a community with a “green” ethos; a strong government or utility partner willing to work towards the development of the infrastructure; and the presence of or potential for policies helping to promote electric vehicles and consumer adoption. All of our launch markets globally share these characteristics.
They just cut and pasted the same thing - can you believe it???Dear Mr. R-----,
Thank you for taking the time to personally contact us about your interest in the Nissan Electric Vehicle.
We are still finalizing some details of the order process, and we will be in touch later this summer with additional information on your order timing. Rest assured, this will not impact your reservation status. We will continue to keep you updated with all developments as they occur.
We appreciate your time, and encourage you to share our contact details with friends and family. For your convenience, we can be reached:
* By return email.
* Through our website at www.nissanusa.com
* By phone at 877-664-2738.
We’re here to serve you from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. (CST) Monday through Friday and 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. (CST) on Saturday
Sincerely,
________________
Meg
Nissan EV Customer Support
www.nissanusa.com/leaf
1-877 NO GAS EV (664-2738)
Yeah... that's the same thing that the operator did to me in our chat session this morning until a prompted her repeatedly for more of an explanation. As you can see above, she didn't give me one, but at least copied-and-pasted what might be a relevant statement.johnr said:They just cut and pasted the same thing - can you believe it???
Cutting to the chase, now, these lines of the Nissan reply jumped out at me:Yanquetino said:I got on the chat this morning to ask the operator to convey that perspective to Nissan. At first the operator was equally as reticent, and responded that she could not give me any detailed explanation. Nonetheless, after a bit of prompting, she posted this:
I had to ask myself, 'Why did you care so much about what you expected to learn on June 30?' The answer was that I have very little idea right now of what my real priority is. Can I expect to get a Leaf in Dec 2010? June 2011? Maybe not until the end of 2011? I do live in California, but many hundreds of miles from the San Diego and LA areas they seem to be focusing on. So what "market" am I really in, and what are the roll out plans for it? Surely they can't roll out the entire state at once (770 miles long, 37 million people).Dealerships also have to be prepared to service and support the new vehicle before deliveries can begin. This is because as an electric car there are new aspects and equipment to consider. There are several layers to the process that result in a market receiving delivery.
johnr said:They just cut and pasted the same thing - can you believe it???
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