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phxsmiley said:
I think I figured out what's going on there.
Thank you gentlemen! That is exactly what is happening. I do have a pressure warning with the blinking red pressures. I didn't know that would force you to screen 4. I will change the pressure warning and try it out.
Is there some other issue that would cause the app to change background color on it's own? It is doing that now. Starts out with the default white background, changes to a black background, then sometimes changes back to white sometime not.
I am using a Motorola Bravo MB520 inactive phone with Android 2.2.1.
Thanks again!
Ty
 
Installing the LEAF Spy (lite and pro) along side the
older LEAF Battery app, the new versions do not
use the same last-used data.

Is there any easy way to get the Spy app to use that older data?
Rename or copy and old directory/folder?

Will the three Spy apps all use the same "last-used" data?
 
Night mode will change the colors. It can be toggled on/off in one of two ways.

1. Tap the area of the light bulb just above the 12 volt battery voltage. The active tap area extends right about to the middle of the PSI/temp box.

2. Automatically when the headlights are turned on.
 
Thank you Gary!
That was it. I had seen the light bulb but didn't know what it was for.
I am going to reread the wiki to see what else I haven't grasped.
Ty
 
The saved data is stored in the app's private data area. So each level of the app (Lite, standard, Pro) will have its own set of saved data. The amount of data saved is not always the same between levels. I don't want to add code to handle corrupted/unexpected data so it is kept in the private area.

I don't expect people to be running more than one level of the app.
 
Fair enough.

Since you have the data in private areas,
where does the user data log go for each version,
and where is the debugging log for sending ELM
debugging stuff to you, for each version?

Splendid work, Jim. :D
 
Hello to all.
I bought the Leaf Spy Pro and would like to know what's this field marked in green.

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Now we can't see the engine rpm?
And the speed field marked in red, will not put in Km/h ?

Sorry if this is not the right topic to ask this and sorry the bad english. :oops:

Thank you
 
garygid said:
Apparently the Euro units will come in a next version.
Several posts back Turbo3 described these new GPS
data values.

Of course, some Android devices do not have GPS.
Thank You.
I'll wait for new version...
 
Turbo3 said:
Here is the request from TickTock to make the change. This was back in August. Go back to page 207 of the original Battery topic to see it. It was implemented in 0.26m2 with code to force everyone updating to this new value.

I can't answer were the 101.98 came from, but I would like to request/suggest we change the reference to 65.6Ah=100% to avoid confusion. 65.6 is what the 2013's (and 2011/2012 after s/w update) call 100% SOH and it would be nice to avoid having to clarify which scale we mean when we quote a SOH/%cap value. Since we can't change the one built into the car, I propose we change the ones in all the canbus devices. 67.56Ah, then, would become 103%.
Yup. When my LEAF got reset from 9 bars to 12 bars, the AHr was reset to 65.6 and SOH read 100% (read in the parking lot of the dealer before driving home). I also got reads from two other 2013 Leafs one at 93% and 60.85Ah and the other at 91% and 59.61Ah which also supported the 65.6 denominator. However, after gathering 95 more datapoints on my own car as it drooped from 72% down to 70% over the last few months, dividing Ah by 65.6 sometimes results in +1% error. I cannot find a value that results in zero error for all readings between the true SOH as read from the car and the Ahr/xxx calculation.
 
garygid said:
Apparently the Euro units will come in a next version.
Several posts back Turbo3 described these new GPS
data values.

Of course, some Android devices do not have GPS.

I think the GPS data is coming from the car, not the Android.
 
The SOH "health" is some unknown number, so it is not
clear how it should match anything else. If it measured
or estimated the same properties as AH, then there
would be little mystery, and we might just say that
these are two different ways of estimating things.

However, at this point we do not even know what
this number attempts to estimate. Perhaps it is
some measure of the average cell resistance,
compared to a "good" battery?

We have not yet found the 96 calculated cell
resistances yet, as far as I know.

Similarly, some also try to compare SOC with other things,
like the SOC and AH/65.x values. These two readings
measure different aspects of the car, and should not match.

How do you say... like comparing fruit?

SOC is a measure of how full the tank is right now.
When you fill the tank, no matter how much
the tank has shrunk, the SOC is about 95%, and
it drops down toward 5% (or so) as you drive,
gradually emptying the fuel tank.

AH is apparently an estimate of how much current could be
poured into the tank, not how full it is now, or how much energy
is in the tank. If one assumes that a typical new, full-capacity
battery could hold 65.47654 amp-Hours of current, then
one might consider this AH/65.xx as some sort of estimate
of the battery's capacity. But, the initial estimate and
assumptions make it... not perfectly reliable.

If AH/65.x should be around 100% when the battery is new.
and around 85% when you lose one capacity bar, how
does that compare to the "full" SOC, which is still around
95% in both cases?

Answer, it doesn't, and shouldn't match.
Like Pickles and Squash, I say! :D
 
Not sure if you were responding to my post, Gary, but just in case, when I say SOH I *never* mean H/Hlth/Xfactor. I am referring to the SOH value that the BMS computes and is read by the Nissan technician to confirm capacity loss prior to battery replacement. This is the value that appears to track Ah/65.6 for high SOH (>90%) but seems to (better) track Ah/66.0 for lower SOH (70-72%) but still not perfectly (some times off by 1%). I haven't seen any data on the points in between since none of the popular devices report this value yet.
 
Sorry, it was not clear to me that there is any
... SOH value that the BMS computes and is read by
the Nissan technician to confirm capacity loss prior to battery replacement.

I was under the impression that the displayed capacity bars were
the criterion, nothing else. Presumably after the latest firmware
update?

How are you getting this SOH value for comparison,
from the dealer?

If there is such a value, can we identify it, and then
read it ourselves?
 
garygid said:
Sorry, it was not clear to me that there is any
... SOH value that the BMS computes and is read by
the Nissan technician to confirm capacity loss prior to battery replacement.

I was under the impression that the displayed capacity bars were
the criterion, nothing else. Presumably after the latest firmware
update?

How are you getting this SOH value for comparison,
from the dealer?

If there is such a value, can we identify it, and then
read it ourselves?

Yes! CarCan 5B3:D2>>1

We should move this discussion, though, to the canbus decoding thread.
 
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