Nissan`s electric tour- San Diego
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Azrich
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Would someone please take a tape measure?
Let's end the mystery of the interior dimensions that Nissan has refused to release. A couple of minutes and a few simple measurements and you can be the first to post these interior measurements.
Here are Nissan's measurements for the Versa Hatchback to give you some guidelines on what to measure and post:
Interior (inches)
Head room (front/rear) 40.6/38.3
Leg room (front/rear) 41.4/38.0
Hip room (front/rear) 48.8/47.2
Shoulder room (front/rear) 53.5/50.7
Thanks, a lot, from all of use tall and big people that want these measurements!!
Let's end the mystery of the interior dimensions that Nissan has refused to release. A couple of minutes and a few simple measurements and you can be the first to post these interior measurements.
Here are Nissan's measurements for the Versa Hatchback to give you some guidelines on what to measure and post:
Interior (inches)
Head room (front/rear) 40.6/38.3
Leg room (front/rear) 41.4/38.0
Hip room (front/rear) 48.8/47.2
Shoulder room (front/rear) 53.5/50.7
Thanks, a lot, from all of use tall and big people that want these measurements!!
garygid
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Please try to ask/observe these:
1. gather a few VIN numbers
2. ask about/look for a OBD/CAN connector
3. does the parking brake Auto-Set-ON when the LEAF is turned off?
4. Ask how an unattended, locked LEAF should be loaded onto a flat-bed (to avoid any damage)
5. shift into Reverse to hear the "backup" warning
6. verify that the "pedestrian warning" (forward motion) can be heard, or find out why it cannot
1. gather a few VIN numbers
2. ask about/look for a OBD/CAN connector
3. does the parking brake Auto-Set-ON when the LEAF is turned off?
4. Ask how an unattended, locked LEAF should be loaded onto a flat-bed (to avoid any damage)
5. shift into Reverse to hear the "backup" warning
6. verify that the "pedestrian warning" (forward motion) can be heard, or find out why it cannot
evnow
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I've started a consolidated questions thread. Let us use that.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1516
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1516
ttweed
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My wife and I headed down in the drizzle to Liberty Station yesterday morning for our test drive. The process seemed to be very organized and timely, compared to what I had read about some of the other tour dates earlier. If anything, it was rather tightly controlled. While waiting for our group to start I wandered up to check out the static display and was basically told to wait my turn and come through with my group. 
There was not a lot new to me in the walkthrough booths, but I did like seeing the display of the battery pack, which is something I will likely never glimpse again, unless one is allowed into the service bay at the dealer at some future time. There was a demo version of the iPhone app running also, but since I don't have a smartphone, it wasn't high on my "curiosity list."
The drive itself was very enlightening, though, and I was duly impressed, as was my wife. We are sold on the car, now. The handling and performance were unremarkable, in the sense that they have done a great job of making the driving experience a nearly seamless transition from what one is used to in ICE cars. The steering is indeed light at low/parking speed, but continuously variable assist decreases with velocity, and being able to drive at at least "boulevard speed" (if not freeway speed), instead of a coned-parking lot drive like the last one we had, revealed adequate "road feel" or feedback, though it is not "Porsche-like" by any means. It feels like any well-mannered econobox you might drive, with perhaps slightly better handling characteristics due to the low CG. Even in Eco mode, the acceleration is adequate, and if you floor the "go" pedal, it still responds smartly. Due to the wet streets, they were running all the cars with traction control enabled, I think, so there was no tire-spinning burnouts possible.
If anything, I would have liked to see more regen on trailing throttle--apparently they don't want to surprise anyone with greater decel than usual for compression braking with an ICE, but perhaps this is something that could be changed by a software update? You can tell the difference between coasting in normal vs. Eco mode, but it is barely noticeable in either. I expected more braking effect when lifting off the pedal in Eco mode.
The interior is entirely adequate for my 6'4", 200lb. body, although sitting in the back seat, it helps a lot to have the front seat forward at least a little. Riding behind my wife, who is only 5'6", there was plenty of legroom. The Nav and entertainment displays will take some studying to master, it is quite complex, and they didn't want you messing with them while driving, though the tech riding shotgun was willing to put them through various cycles to demonstrate. I really hope they publish the owner's manual soon. One of the Tour techies said they wished they had it as well, but that the whole production/operation process is just too new for Nissan to have set anything in writing yet.
The dash was showing a low tire pressure warning on our car, which he explained as a software bug they hadn't worked out yet and was effecting many of the cars. The Carwings wouldn't update the nearby charging stations, either--some kind of connectivity problem. The sound system was great, enhanced by the quiet interior no doubt--there was only the slightest whirring from tire and motor noise noticeable from the interior. All pedestrian and backup noises were turned off for the tour, according to the tech. My wife loved the backup cam, something we have never had on a vehicle before. We watched someone synch their iPhone to the car quickly and easily on the static display car after our ride and play his tunes--nice if you have one!
It was our first chance to see the production colors, and we are happy with our Glacier Pearl choice. There was no sun out to really reflect the nature of the colors, but the white is definitely not "beige" as some have reported, even in grey, cloudy conditions. It's not a stark white, but it has more of a green/blue cast to it than cream or beige, if anything. The red was very attractive, and the blue was definitely a shade or two darker than the early pre-production example we saw at the last tour, as has been reported. All of the cars had the decal packages which I could do without, but understandable on the demo cars as an advertising element.
All in all, it was well worth going to the event and we can't wait to get our car, now. It's going to be a long few more months, still.
TT
There was not a lot new to me in the walkthrough booths, but I did like seeing the display of the battery pack, which is something I will likely never glimpse again, unless one is allowed into the service bay at the dealer at some future time. There was a demo version of the iPhone app running also, but since I don't have a smartphone, it wasn't high on my "curiosity list."
The drive itself was very enlightening, though, and I was duly impressed, as was my wife. We are sold on the car, now. The handling and performance were unremarkable, in the sense that they have done a great job of making the driving experience a nearly seamless transition from what one is used to in ICE cars. The steering is indeed light at low/parking speed, but continuously variable assist decreases with velocity, and being able to drive at at least "boulevard speed" (if not freeway speed), instead of a coned-parking lot drive like the last one we had, revealed adequate "road feel" or feedback, though it is not "Porsche-like" by any means. It feels like any well-mannered econobox you might drive, with perhaps slightly better handling characteristics due to the low CG. Even in Eco mode, the acceleration is adequate, and if you floor the "go" pedal, it still responds smartly. Due to the wet streets, they were running all the cars with traction control enabled, I think, so there was no tire-spinning burnouts possible.
If anything, I would have liked to see more regen on trailing throttle--apparently they don't want to surprise anyone with greater decel than usual for compression braking with an ICE, but perhaps this is something that could be changed by a software update? You can tell the difference between coasting in normal vs. Eco mode, but it is barely noticeable in either. I expected more braking effect when lifting off the pedal in Eco mode.
The interior is entirely adequate for my 6'4", 200lb. body, although sitting in the back seat, it helps a lot to have the front seat forward at least a little. Riding behind my wife, who is only 5'6", there was plenty of legroom. The Nav and entertainment displays will take some studying to master, it is quite complex, and they didn't want you messing with them while driving, though the tech riding shotgun was willing to put them through various cycles to demonstrate. I really hope they publish the owner's manual soon. One of the Tour techies said they wished they had it as well, but that the whole production/operation process is just too new for Nissan to have set anything in writing yet.
The dash was showing a low tire pressure warning on our car, which he explained as a software bug they hadn't worked out yet and was effecting many of the cars. The Carwings wouldn't update the nearby charging stations, either--some kind of connectivity problem. The sound system was great, enhanced by the quiet interior no doubt--there was only the slightest whirring from tire and motor noise noticeable from the interior. All pedestrian and backup noises were turned off for the tour, according to the tech. My wife loved the backup cam, something we have never had on a vehicle before. We watched someone synch their iPhone to the car quickly and easily on the static display car after our ride and play his tunes--nice if you have one!
It was our first chance to see the production colors, and we are happy with our Glacier Pearl choice. There was no sun out to really reflect the nature of the colors, but the white is definitely not "beige" as some have reported, even in grey, cloudy conditions. It's not a stark white, but it has more of a green/blue cast to it than cream or beige, if anything. The red was very attractive, and the blue was definitely a shade or two darker than the early pre-production example we saw at the last tour, as has been reported. All of the cars had the decal packages which I could do without, but understandable on the demo cars as an advertising element.
All in all, it was well worth going to the event and we can't wait to get our car, now. It's going to be a long few more months, still.
TT
Randy
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Had a great time at the event this morning at 8am, first out of the gate. A little gloomy, but that didn't dampen our Leaf spirits. They only had one car to check out before driving (Cayenne Red!), and it was pretty crowded with the people coming in batches to drive from the other displays.
I was able to grab a photo of the VIN number of the Red Leaf there in the pre-drive area. It was JN1AZOCPOBT000068.
Did anyone notice that all the test drive Leafs had the same license plate (562)? It was a great drive, no parking lot course, all on city streets and a little bit on Rosecrans (the 40mph main drag). There were 4 people in the car when I drove, and I punched it pretty good. Nice acceleration. Tried the ECO mode and could feel the regeneration right away when taking my foot off the gas. I brought a USB stick with music on it, so we listened to that a bit. Total drive time was probably 5-6 minutes over 2-3 miles? It went by so fast...The black car we drove had about 460 miles on it.
They were taking some cars around to the DC Fast Charger, so we snuck in the gated area to scope that out. Got chased out by the driver of the cars being charged. Said it wasn't safe for us to be there (about 40 feet away from the flatbed with the DC Fast charger on it). I didn't argue, but was thinking, hmm, not safe at 40 feet? What about someday when I have my own car and plug it into the DC Fast charger myself? Any less safe? Whatever, we weren't supposed to be there, so we left and looked from afar. Definitely a first class operation with the drive event. Had to cost some serious $$$ for Nissan to sponsor.
Afterwards, we also stood around and watched the Leafs come around the initial corner out of the driveway. Very quiet. A slight high pitched whining sound, and some tick-tick-tick that we thought might be the tires. Otherwise, very quiet...And after all this, my friend Malcolm decided to try and change his ordered color from Silver to Red (like me!)....We'll see if he's able to do that. The dealer said they'd try it, as long as it isn't already in production.
It was a fun morning.....They could have sold these cars like hotcakes on the spot!!! Picked up a nice brochure on the way out...
Randy
I was able to grab a photo of the VIN number of the Red Leaf there in the pre-drive area. It was JN1AZOCPOBT000068.
Did anyone notice that all the test drive Leafs had the same license plate (562)? It was a great drive, no parking lot course, all on city streets and a little bit on Rosecrans (the 40mph main drag). There were 4 people in the car when I drove, and I punched it pretty good. Nice acceleration. Tried the ECO mode and could feel the regeneration right away when taking my foot off the gas. I brought a USB stick with music on it, so we listened to that a bit. Total drive time was probably 5-6 minutes over 2-3 miles? It went by so fast...The black car we drove had about 460 miles on it.
They were taking some cars around to the DC Fast Charger, so we snuck in the gated area to scope that out. Got chased out by the driver of the cars being charged. Said it wasn't safe for us to be there (about 40 feet away from the flatbed with the DC Fast charger on it). I didn't argue, but was thinking, hmm, not safe at 40 feet? What about someday when I have my own car and plug it into the DC Fast charger myself? Any less safe? Whatever, we weren't supposed to be there, so we left and looked from afar. Definitely a first class operation with the drive event. Had to cost some serious $$$ for Nissan to sponsor.
Afterwards, we also stood around and watched the Leafs come around the initial corner out of the driveway. Very quiet. A slight high pitched whining sound, and some tick-tick-tick that we thought might be the tires. Otherwise, very quiet...And after all this, my friend Malcolm decided to try and change his ordered color from Silver to Red (like me!)....We'll see if he's able to do that. The dealer said they'd try it, as long as it isn't already in production.
It was a fun morning.....They could have sold these cars like hotcakes on the spot!!! Picked up a nice brochure on the way out...
Randy
This is in regards to Tom Tweeds post above.
I took the test drive early today in San Diego.
I agree with everything Tom said about the car: handeling, stearing, accelleration, seating, and so on.
Also, the car is in no way the kind of a hot hood that has become popular. The Leaf is a very good means of transportation and if the 100 mile range fits into your lifestyle, you may really like this car.
I will buy the car in January. I remember the gas lines in 1973 and 1980. I believe the gas lines will return, and I do not want to go through that again.
I took the test drive early today in San Diego.
I agree with everything Tom said about the car: handeling, stearing, accelleration, seating, and so on.
Also, the car is in no way the kind of a hot hood that has become popular. The Leaf is a very good means of transportation and if the 100 mile range fits into your lifestyle, you may really like this car.
I will buy the car in January. I remember the gas lines in 1973 and 1980. I believe the gas lines will return, and I do not want to go through that again.
tps
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If it was anything like the picture of the charge trailer posted a while back, maybe he had a point. While the big DC fast charger stayed on the trailer, there were a bunch of L2 chargers laying on the ground hooked up via SJ extension cords. Probably the biggest hazzard wasn't shock, but tripping. No way would that setup have passed any inspection for a permanent installation. Them's the breaks for temporary setups. (I used to have a PA rig; my power distro had 250 ft of 6/4 rubber cord broken up into 3 pieces with 50A metal twist-lock connectors.)Randy said:
Glad to hear everyone's fairly positive experiences with the test drives. Now if those of us in non-rollout states could just get a look at the LEAF...
wsbca
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We were in the first group - a few glitches (iPhone app was locked and our tour guide did not have the password, range web page demo internet (cell) was down)...but those were minor, we were there to see, touch and drive the car, and that part was great. My wife's driving escort was apparently a bit more gregarious than mine, she ended up seeing/hearing about more features during her drive than I did, but I got what I needed out of it. Like others who have posted we were attracted to the red color, but our (blue) one is hopefully already in production (Aug 31 order, ETEC) so we're not going to worry about it. The driving experience was great. The car feels tight, the steering was fine for my taste, seats comfortable front and rear (I'm 6'). They asked people not to bring pets so we brought a giant stuffed "test dog" to see how our Golden would fit in the way back and/or back seat - no problem, other than explaining to everyone why he was there. This is definitely a car of the future, today. It's like something out of the Jetsons even compared to our first gen Civic Hybrid. I can hardly wait for my first emission free, gas free errand - which from a philosophical point of view will hopefully something sensible like a trip to the library rather than a Costco run where I end up with a bunch of crap I didn't know I needed. I won't actually get to drive it much as I normally ride my bike to work (also a hybrid - runs on donuts or bagels), it will be my wife's commute vehicle - but I'll be pretty content just watching it charge up from our solar panels. The only bummer today was it was such a worthless solar day.
Jimmydreams
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I just did my test drive today.
The accelleration was nice! The dashboard seemed just a skosh on the 'chinsy' side as far as the electronic displays. I guess I was expecting something a little crisper and brighter. Don't get me wrong, everything was nice, I guess I was looking for a much sharper display. Inside was nice with plenty of room all the way around. Visibility was a little rough in certain directions, but I also didn't spend much time adjusting mirrors, etc. I forgot to try the reverse cam. I DID find out that you can switch to Neutral while driving and back again into Drive. Eco-mode was interesting....VERY 'muddy' feel to the gas pedal and much more regen on lifting the gas. I probably won't use Eco unless I need the extra miles. Climate control was on the whole time, but I forgot to look at the kWh/mi gauge.
I hooked my iPhone up with it's USB cord and the radio found it right away. Nice display allowing me to pick songs, albums, artists, playlists, etc. Once I selected something to play, the steering wheel control would scroll forward and reverse through whatever 'group' I was playing. The iPhone was also charging, so that's good. I didn't try Bluetooth.
Colors were ok, but since it was overcast, nothing stood out. I really like how all the chromed emblems were sorta 'blued' a bit. Looked REALLY nice on all the cars, but kinda got absorbed on the blue car. I ordered the blue, but after seeing them live, I probably would have been happier with silver.
Steve Fambro was there. :lol:
Overall, I think the car will be EXACTLY what I'm looking for in a commuter. The front end DOES drop away more than I've ever seen before, but it's a small car, so getting in and out of parking spaces will be a breeze. Steering was just fine.
Overall, I give it an A and cannot wait until my (hopefully) December delivery date.
The accelleration was nice! The dashboard seemed just a skosh on the 'chinsy' side as far as the electronic displays. I guess I was expecting something a little crisper and brighter. Don't get me wrong, everything was nice, I guess I was looking for a much sharper display. Inside was nice with plenty of room all the way around. Visibility was a little rough in certain directions, but I also didn't spend much time adjusting mirrors, etc. I forgot to try the reverse cam.
I DID find out that you can switch to Neutral while driving and back again into Drive. Eco-mode was interesting....VERY 'muddy' feel to the gas pedal and much more regen on lifting the gas. I probably won't use Eco unless I need the extra miles. Climate control was on the whole time, but I forgot to look at the kWh/mi gauge.I hooked my iPhone up with it's USB cord and the radio found it right away. Nice display allowing me to pick songs, albums, artists, playlists, etc. Once I selected something to play, the steering wheel control would scroll forward and reverse through whatever 'group' I was playing. The iPhone was also charging, so that's good. I didn't try Bluetooth.
Colors were ok, but since it was overcast, nothing stood out. I really like how all the chromed emblems were sorta 'blued' a bit. Looked REALLY nice on all the cars, but kinda got absorbed on the blue car. I ordered the blue, but after seeing them live, I probably would have been happier with silver.
Steve Fambro was there. :lol:
Overall, I think the car will be EXACTLY what I'm looking for in a commuter. The front end DOES drop away more than I've ever seen before, but it's a small car, so getting in and out of parking spaces will be a breeze. Steering was just fine.
Overall, I give it an A and cannot wait until my (hopefully) December delivery date.
pksd1
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Went yesterday for a test drive, loved the car. So smooth and peppy. Steering was light, but got used to it in 30 seconds. Guided tour was nice, but nothing new was learned. It was geared towards people that were not familiar with Leaf at all. Some people running the event had not heard anything about leaf until few days ago. I did not hear the VSP system on any of the cars, I think it was deliberately tuned off. Maybe 10 leafs in one small parking lot with high pitch sound would have driven everyone crazy (or off the lot). Did not like the fact Nissan logo at the front of the car was painted blue on all the cars. It should have chrome finish to match the door handles and rest of exterior components. I had go to work so did not have much to play around with parked Leaf.
I was in the neighborhood so took my wife and kids to have them look at the car. Noticed few things. Planet blue is bit darker than what we have been seeing so far. Nissan please change it back to the lighter blue, it was much nicer color. Red color looks very sharp. Not sure we will have a chance to change the color (my order was placed on Sept 3rd). Also “100% Electric Zero Emission logo” kind of stands out. I hope Nissan would let me remove that from the “Eco” package.
Corfirmed iphone 4 bluetooth audio (A2DP). That put a smile on my face. I currently have that on my car and can’t live without it.
Can't wait to get my Leaf (in December ?).
I was in the neighborhood so took my wife and kids to have them look at the car. Noticed few things. Planet blue is bit darker than what we have been seeing so far. Nissan please change it back to the lighter blue, it was much nicer color. Red color looks very sharp. Not sure we will have a chance to change the color (my order was placed on Sept 3rd). Also “100% Electric Zero Emission logo” kind of stands out. I hope Nissan would let me remove that from the “Eco” package.
Corfirmed iphone 4 bluetooth audio (A2DP). That put a smile on my face. I currently have that on my car and can’t live without it.
Can't wait to get my Leaf (in December ?).
With our time reserved this morning (9 am), we loaded up the family and headed down. Got there and my wife had forgotten her driver's license, so couldn't drive. And we forgot the camera, so no photos. Ah well...
In a word - unremarkable. Which is, I feel, exactly what it needs to be. The LEAF feels like (surprise, surprise)... a compact car. Keep in mind, this was my first time ever behind the wheel of an electric car, although I've been in the automotive business for over twenty years. My impression is that Nissan did exactly what they needed to do for the LEAF to appeal to a broad market. Make it feel "normal" - whatever that means.
If you want more driving impression, you can check here.
In a word - unremarkable. Which is, I feel, exactly what it needs to be. The LEAF feels like (surprise, surprise)... a compact car. Keep in mind, this was my first time ever behind the wheel of an electric car, although I've been in the automotive business for over twenty years. My impression is that Nissan did exactly what they needed to do for the LEAF to appeal to a broad market. Make it feel "normal" - whatever that means.
If you want more driving impression, you can check here.
Coffee_Slurry
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Two things detracted from the Nissan event on Saturday.
First, the SDG&E representative I was so looking forward to went completely absent. Nobody knew where they were, and kept saying to come back later. Eventually it turned to "maybe they stepped out for lunch". Then, "maybe they're never coming back". The SDG&E desk was unmanned, which pretty much sums up SDG&E at this point. They're ignoring all email sent to the published EV addresses, and have so many unanswered questions that they're probably got a Ouija Board under the unattended table.
We're two months from delivery and I still have no idea how to wire the charger such that a second meter is possible. Nissan was quoting baseline electricity at $0.11/kWh (instead of our minimum $0.13 in San Diego), so I'm guessing they haven't been able to reach SDG&E either.
But the thing that really chapped my hide was that Nissan is flat-out hiding the Pedestrian Warning Sound. They've deliberately disabled it on all the test-drive cars, and won't even explain why. They have no answer, except "we don't know." The reps are totally confused or misinformed regarding this misleading alteration to the standard car.
I asked if I too could disable it on my Leaf, since it is ostensibly so offensive as to reviled by Nissan's own test-drive crew. "NO!" Of course not.
I had one tell me that it was "required by law", as he proceed to take people onto public roads with the sound disabled.
I came to the drive event specifically to hear the drive sounds and decide for myself whether they would be intrusive in my neighborhood at night, or louder than the cars I have now. It's one of the largest unanswered questions I have regarding the Leaf. I learned nothing, and probably won't get to hear it until delivery day.
I came to talk to SDG&E about their billing plans and meter installations. I learned nothing.
Other unanswered questions:
Pretty much any question that's not answered in the brochure or FAQ gets the same answer: "You'll find out more later". Which makes me wonder why I bothered going.
Oh yes, the drive.. uneventful, as others have said. You do get torque off the line, but the illusion of power fades by 25mph or so. ECO mode is so intrusive as to be annoying, and won't get a moment's use outside of the press demos.
First, the SDG&E representative I was so looking forward to went completely absent. Nobody knew where they were, and kept saying to come back later. Eventually it turned to "maybe they stepped out for lunch". Then, "maybe they're never coming back". The SDG&E desk was unmanned, which pretty much sums up SDG&E at this point. They're ignoring all email sent to the published EV addresses, and have so many unanswered questions that they're probably got a Ouija Board under the unattended table.
We're two months from delivery and I still have no idea how to wire the charger such that a second meter is possible. Nissan was quoting baseline electricity at $0.11/kWh (instead of our minimum $0.13 in San Diego), so I'm guessing they haven't been able to reach SDG&E either.
But the thing that really chapped my hide was that Nissan is flat-out hiding the Pedestrian Warning Sound. They've deliberately disabled it on all the test-drive cars, and won't even explain why. They have no answer, except "we don't know." The reps are totally confused or misinformed regarding this misleading alteration to the standard car.
I asked if I too could disable it on my Leaf, since it is ostensibly so offensive as to reviled by Nissan's own test-drive crew. "NO!" Of course not.
I had one tell me that it was "required by law", as he proceed to take people onto public roads with the sound disabled.
I came to the drive event specifically to hear the drive sounds and decide for myself whether they would be intrusive in my neighborhood at night, or louder than the cars I have now. It's one of the largest unanswered questions I have regarding the Leaf. I learned nothing, and probably won't get to hear it until delivery day.
I came to talk to SDG&E about their billing plans and meter installations. I learned nothing.
Other unanswered questions:
How much will Carwings cost after the free period ends?
Will they have the Carwings price set before first delivery?
When will the Owner's Manual be available?
Are there any L2 chargers operational in San Diego today?
Pretty much any question that's not answered in the brochure or FAQ gets the same answer: "You'll find out more later". Which makes me wonder why I bothered going.
Oh yes, the drive.. uneventful, as others have said. You do get torque off the line, but the illusion of power fades by 25mph or so. ECO mode is so intrusive as to be annoying, and won't get a moment's use outside of the press demos.
aries
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We were at this event today. I took some photos and recorded videos the presentations in each pavilion as well as a brief video of some of the cars driving in. Also are a couple of photos of the generator + quick charger they had.
I've placed the raw files on one of my web servers for anyone who is interested. These are fairly large. Hope its helpful to someone.
In general we were happy with the car on our drive. I do wish they had a more upscale interior trim offering however.
http://aries.spacelink.com/leaf
-J
I've placed the raw files on one of my web servers for anyone who is interested. These are fairly large. Hope its helpful to someone.
In general we were happy with the car on our drive. I do wish they had a more upscale interior trim offering however.
http://aries.spacelink.com/leaf
-J
walterbays
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GroundLoop said:
There are discussion thread(s) here on SDG&E with pointers to the rate schedules on the SDG&E web site. Some rates go lower than $0.11; the most expensive peak price is less than gasoline equivalent. If you have a choice, it's not clear that you'd do better with two meters instead of one, especially if you have solar panels. Lots of discussion on that.
It's a poor substitute for the real thing, but this is something: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihoXaHqpbpg[/youtube]
They charge $28-42 per year for it in Japan. Here, who knows? "What the market will bear" might mean pricing it about the same as GM OnStar.
Coffee_Slurry
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walterbays said:
Like the test-drive cars, the video is faked; synthetic. Why is Nissan being dishonest and cagey about this? The test-drive event was a great opportunity for them to show it off and put concerns to rest.. so why pretend the car is silent?
I noted that they did not tell visitors. "These cars are silent. Yours will make noise."
It's really starting to irk me that I can't know what the sound will be like until delivery. If it is as obnoxious and irritant as the video, I expect it will become a joke. Coming home late through a quiet neighborhood, or reversing out of the garage early in the morning won't go over so well if it wakes the neighbors like a garbage truck. Seriously, how bad is it?
GroundLoop said:
The sound is much lower than you may think.
Pay attention to the next video filmed in Lisbon, Portugal on the 25th September, and maybe you can listen, and yes, the VSP was on:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwaW13ktsCY[/youtube]
Regards
garygid
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Still, WHY the "deception" of not having the "p-sounds" on during the test drives.
Perhaps we should call LEAF CS and ask? (877-664-2738)
Perhaps we should call LEAF CS and ask? (877-664-2738)
