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FWIW, the Rav-4 prime is basically like a '11/'12 Leaf in that you can't turn off the heat if you want the climate control fan on. Of course unlike the '11/'12 Leafs the Prime uses a much more efficient heatpump heater but unlike the '13 and on Leafs with the heatpump, the Prime lacks a resistive heater, meaning you've basically got no heat in EV mode, in the low teens and colder.
I guess I'm OK with the lack of resistive heater as you've got a ICE if you need heat but personally I'd like to be able to keep the heat off if you have the fan on, when trying to eek out the last miles of EV range. Of course again you've got the ICE when you run out of battery so maybe it's not that big of a deal.
All in all were really liking the Prime, close to 40MPG on just ICE and 50 mile EV range in the summer, closer to 40 in all but the most bitter winter days(single digits and colder. We usually average around 70 MPG with a combination of gas and electric.
Oh finally sold our 2 Leafs, $11k for both(took several months) our '13S with 40k miles and our '12SL with 60k, the '13 had 11 bars and the '12 was down to 8. Originally was hoping for $9k for the '13 and $7k for the '12 but maybe during/shortly after the pandemic but used Leafs, particularly the 40-60 mile original ones are very hard to sell, everyone wanted 100 miles + range, even if for just local trips :(
 
For reference, we took our yearly trip to Canada with our Rav4 Prime which was pretty well weighted down and we were only able to charge a total of 3 times(including leaving with a full battery) and for the 1100 mile trip we averaged a bit over 50mpg. About 1/2 the trip was at 70mph freeway speed and the rest 55-60 and somewhat hilly.
All in all, I'm happy with averaging 50mpg for such a large vehicle and leaving with a full tank, I only had to fill the gas tank once during the whole trip, which was nice, saved paying the crazy $1.43(CND$)/Litre!
 
For reference, we took our yearly trip to Canada with our Rav4 Prime which was pretty well weighted down and we were only able to charge a total of 3 times(including leaving with a full battery) and for the 1100 mile trip we averaged a bit over 50mpg. About 1/2 the trip was at 70mph freeway speed and the rest 55-60 and somewhat hilly.
All in all, I'm happy with averaging 50mpg for such a large vehicle and leaving with a full tank, I only had to fill the gas tank once during the whole trip, which was nice, saved paying the crazy $1.43(CND$)/Litre!
Crazy? Gas is $4/ gallon in Chicago, which is technically a few cents more than what you paid.
 
Crazy? Gas is $4/ gallon in Chicago, which is technically a few cents more than what you paid.
:oops:
Gas around where I live has been in the low low $3's and even occasionally dips below $3/gallon but even at that I'm glad we only need to fill up the Prime maybe once/month and even then we are able to use a gas discount of generally around $1 off/gallon(up to 20 gallons) by purchasing food at our cities largest supermarket. I always get the full 20 gallons, bringing a 6-gallon gas can to make sure and add it to the car when the tank gets low enough. We could probably do all but 2 or 3 long summer trips all on EV if we'd gotten an EV with a more than 250-mile range, something like the Chevy Equinox with its close to 300-mile range but I really wanted to get down to 1 vehicle and not mess with having to rent an ICE vehicle for our longer trips. While the 50+ mile EV range in the summer with the Prime is nice, it still couldn't make the often 100+ miles my wife now drives daily.
When we ordered the Prime my wife was only driving 10-40 miles/day and could even get by with the 50-mile range Gen1 Leaf we had and I thought we'd hardly have to purchase gas, maybe just when the gas started getting old but a change in position now requires her to drive significantly more than before.
 
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