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Nov. U.S. sales 105, making the total YTD 918, making it 18th if included in PEV sales, ahead of the Ford Focus Electric (800) and behind the BMW i8 (1,461).
Now that is really surprising to me. In my So Cal commutes, I've only seen one Mirai in the wild in private hands. Aren't all of the Mirai sales by definition restricted to LA and SF areas? If so, then with 918 split between these two markets I would think I would encounter them more frequently. Perhaps once delivered the new owners realize how hard it is to keep them fueled and ready to go and they are becoming driveway ornaments?GRA said:Nov. U.S. sales 105, making the total YTD 918, making it 18th if included in PEV sales, ahead of the Ford Focus Electric (800) and behind the BMW i8 (1,461).
They're also on sale at one dealer in the Sacramento area. I've seen just two private Mirais (one at the local H2 station), but I think it's really dependent on zipcode. I'm in the East Bay, but not in a city with the income demographic that could afford a lot of them, although it is on a main commute route to eastern Alameda county. If I hung out at the local fuel station next to I-880 I'd expect to see them a lot more often. I imagine they're far more common in the South Bay, as there are three stations there now and lots of techy people with the income to afford them. Maybe the Peninsula and Marin county, too, as the 101 corridor is well served with stations.DarthPuppy said:Now that is really surprising to me. In my So Cal commutes, I've only seen one Mirai in the wild in private hands. Aren't all of the Mirai sales by definition restricted to LA and SF areas? If so, then with 918 split between these two markets I would think I would encounter them more frequently. Perhaps once delivered the new owners realize how hard it is to keep them fueled and ready to go and they are becoming driveway ornaments?GRA said:Nov. U.S. sales 105, making the total YTD 918, making it 18th if included in PEV sales, ahead of the Ford Focus Electric (800) and behind the BMW i8 (1,461).
I see a lot more i8s on the road - usually at least 1 a week.
If it doesn't work for you, it doesn't, although from your route description wouldn't the Hollywood station be reasonably convenient for you during your commute (albeit with a detour off 5 to 101)? Is N. Hollywood or Thousand Oaks the station that would give you a station closer to home?DarthPuppy said:Got a call from Toyota today to inform me that there are now stations close enough to me and they have improved the lease and purchase offers. Checking the map, yes I could do it, but they are still missing at least one key station near work and that is in quite a gap on the map (5 and 605 fwys). And with the closest station to my home still 25 miles away until middle of 2017, that is just too much hassle. Sad part is they don't seem to have any plans for stations near work. They also don't have any along the 118 or 5 which is my normal route due to traffic considerations. So I will have to pass.
If they don't get more infrastructure in place by when I need to change out my current daily commuter, they won't have a chance to get my $ as viable mid-long range BEVs are coming online as we speak.
I saw another one in the past week. It was a dark blue one here in the Bay Area (South Bay portion) and didn't have plates yet.DarthPuppy said:Now that is really surprising to me. In my So Cal commutes, I've only seen one Mirai in the wild in private hands. Aren't all of the Mirai sales by definition restricted to LA and SF areas? If so, then with 918 split between these two markets I would think I would encounter them more frequently. Perhaps once delivered the new owners realize how hard it is to keep them fueled and ready to go and they are becoming driveway ornaments?GRA said:Nov. U.S. sales 105, making the total YTD 918, making it 18th if included in PEV sales, ahead of the Ford Focus Electric (800) and behind the BMW i8 (1,461).
I see a lot more i8s on the road - usually at least 1 a week.
Now that's weird. I'd have expected that you'd see a lot more of them than I would. We've got at least one local, and I've seen others every couple of months. I've even had at least one day where an i8 was the first PEV I've seen within seconds of walking out my front gate. I think the rarest so far was having that first PEV of the day be an ELR, and I've even seen an Accord PHEV (twice!), although not the first of the day. I've never ID'ed any of the Porsches or a Sonata PHEV, but I don't know what distinguishing marks they have, so they could be passing by all the time and I wouldn't know it. Finally confirmed my first X5 Xdrive 40e a couple of weeks back, but haven't ID'ed any of the others other than a car-shared Active E a couple of years back. Seen a few B-class, but can't confirm any of the other Mercs yet.cwerdna said:<snip>
Other than the one at my work (I know the driver), I don't think I've ever seen an i8 on the road. I'm guessing there'd be more i8's in/around LA.
GRA said:Per IEVS, Dec. U.S. Mirai sales 116, and 1,034 for the year. Likely to retain what would be #18th place on the PEV list, as the Focus FFE isn't likely to sell 235 cars in December, as they've only sold in the triple-digits (110) once month this year, double-digits all others.
I don't remember that, but could be. Upthread I linked to an ABG article where they said they were only expecting 3k sales total (worldwide?) by the end of 2017: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/16/peek-into-plans-sell-toyota-mirai-hydrogen/smkettner said:Did I read Toyota was to ramp up production to 6,000 units in 2017?
Good luck.
GRA said:My memory was that they were planning on about 1k U.S. sales the first year, 3k the second, and I think they fell a bit short of that (I forget what month they debuted here - October 2015?).
OT P.S. Hey, the FFE broke the triple digit barrier (just barely: 101) for the second time this year. Gives them 901 for the year.
Yes, already mentioned in the H2 and FCEV topic.DNAinaGoodWay said:Have you seen this yet?
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1108482_simplefuel-home-hydrogen-fuel-dispenser-wins-1-million-doe-prize
A step towards ubiquitous solar or wind powered H2 stations?
Would be pricey for a home station.
. . . The Super Bowl ad's reach will be as limited as the market for the Mirai and the infrastructure used to fuel it. As Automotive News reports, the commercial will only air in the markets of LA and San Francisco. If that's where you'll be watching the game, look for the ad before the halftime show. The spot – which originally wasn't going to air on game day – marks the beginning of a larger marketing campaign for the Mirai ending in July.
GRA said:Via ABG, Toyota's apparently willing to spend big bucks to advertise the Mirai: The Mirai has flower power in Toyota's [b]Super Bowl ad[/b] http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/02/toyota-mirai-super-bowl-ad-flower-power/
. . . The Super Bowl ad's reach will be as limited as the market for the Mirai and the infrastructure used to fuel it. As Automotive News reports, the commercial will only air in the markets of LA and San Francisco. If that's where you'll be watching the game, look for the ad before the halftime show. The spot – which originally wasn't going to air on game day – marks the beginning of a larger marketing campaign for the Mirai ending in July.
GRA said:Via ABG, Toyota's apparently willing to spend big bucks to advertise the Mirai: The Mirai has flower power in Toyota's [b]Super Bowl ad[/b] http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/02/toyota-mirai-super-bowl-ad-flower-power/
. . . The Super Bowl ad's reach will be as limited as the market for the Mirai and the infrastructure used to fuel it. As Automotive News reports, the commercial will only air in the markets of LA and San Francisco. If that's where you'll be watching the game, look for the ad before the halftime show. The spot – which originally wasn't going to air on game day – marks the beginning of a larger marketing campaign for the Mirai ending in July.
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