swaltner
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:20 pm

I bought the Leaf last summer and the other two vehicles have definitely become the second cars.

Last summer, 3 weeks after I placed a factory order for my Leaf SV, the 2003 Doge Ram 1500 pickup threw a rod (on a trip a 300 miles from home), so I took it to a local engine shop to get a new engine installed. The same day that the Leaf arrived in town, the pickup came back from the engine shop. Since that time, mileage on my three vehicles has been:

2013 Leaf SV - 9,100 miles

2003 Dodge Ram 1500 - 800 miles (350 of that was a round trip to Kansas City for a wedding, 100 miles was towing the 16' trailer to haul stuff around town, and possibly 200 miles have been loaning it to friends that needed a pickup for a day.

2006 Ariel Atom 2 - 600 miles. For the last three years, I put 2,200 to 2,900 miles/year on the Atom. Part of this was just wanting to drive the Atom, but it was also a wretched Fall and Winter, so it has been parked for a while. It's just barely getting to where it's nice enough in the morning to drive it to work now.

I'm sort of toying with the idea of selling the Leaf and Atom and buying a Model S to replace them. If the prices on used Tesla Roadsters had dropped a little faster than they had, I would have purchased one of them instead of the Atom.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:51 pm

What's an Ariel Atom? (I'm at work and can't search as easily.) Anyway, we have a different arrangement: my housemate's Prius PHEV is my second car, which I've used exactly twice: once for range and once for more cargo space, to buy an electric bicycle. She, OTOH, thinks the Leaf is Evil, and won't drive it unless I'm with her, so she has no second car.
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eHelmholtz
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:41 pm

The Tesla roadster instead of the atom? It looks like the Atom is fun on a different level!

Here's what Jeremy Clarkson has to say:
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:08 am

LeftieBiker wrote:What's an Ariel Atom? (I'm at work and can't search as easily.) Anyway, we have a different arrangement: my housemate's Prius PHEV is my second car, which I've used exactly twice: once for range and once for more cargo space, to buy an electric bicycle. She, OTOH, thinks the Leaf is Evil, and won't drive it unless I'm with her, so she has no second car.
from wiki

The Ariel Atom is a road legal high performance sports car made by the Ariel Motor Company based in Crewkerne, Somerset, England and under licence in North America by TMI Autotech, Inc. at Virginia International Raceway in Alton, Virginia.

The Ariel Atom is unusual in that it is exoskeletal — the chassis is prominently visible from the outside — and therefore lacks a roof, windows and other features normally found on road cars although a small windscreen is available as an optional extra. The chassis design leads to a relatively high drag coefficient of 0.40 in comparison to more aerodynamic road cars.[3]
2011 SL; 44,598 mi, 87% SOH. 2013 S; 44,840 mi, 91% SOH. 2016 S30; 29,413 mi, 99% SOH. 2018 S; 25,185 mi, SOH 92.23%. 2019 S Plus; 11,333.1 mi, 93.73% SOH
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swaltner
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:43 pm

Oddly enough, the only reason I have the Atom is because of my long-standing interest in electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids. Back in 2006, there weren't really any production options available. I was intrigued by one-off vehicles like the T-Zero as well as contemplating conversions like the homegrown Plug-In Prius conversions. I eventually came across the Wrightspeed X1, which was designed by a former Tesla engineer and used a drivetrain from AC Propulsion (like the one used on the T-Zero) and which also was apparently the start of the drive train on the Tesla Roadster. I eventually found out the source of the chassis on the X1, an Atom, and found they had an AtomFest scheduled in the fall of 2006, where 35+ Atoms arrived for a 4-day track event in Hallett, OK. After getting a passenger ride in the Atom on the track at AtomFest in 2006, I "had to have one", and eventually found the right one on eBay, getting rid of the motorcycle to help pay for the Atom.
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eHelmholtz
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:15 am

Things have changed a bit since the 2011 LEAF days. As EVs have more range, there's little need for an ICE based car as a second car but I still have my roadster for the weekends.

goldbrick
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Re: An ICE based car as a second car...

Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:35 pm

There are still quite a few folks here in CO that need/want a 'real' 4WD vehicle. I was just on a road this weekend that was at the limits of my Subaru Outback. I doubt any Tesla would have the clearance to make it and while an Outback isn't that serious a 4WD car either, it is cheap enough that I didn't mind testing the limits of it as I wouldn't really care if I dented the bottom or tore a CV boot, etc.

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