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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:54 pm

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...She is a finely crafted product that has been specially chosen to look androgynous....
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:40 am

You guys, It's working! On Gallups poll where they ask "what the most important problem facing the country is" the responce
"The environment, pollution and global warming went from a consistent and solid 3% to 6% after last week's climate circus.
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:14 am

Latest IPCC special report on oceans and cryosphere. Definitely worth reading.

https://www.ipcc.ch/srocc/download-report/
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:29 am

I take exception to a comment that I should not be taken seriously.

I may disagree with your ideas, but I will not make value judgments of YOUR opinions or the integrity of your judgment....

As I said before, I don't care what the truth is about the environmental topic under discussion. The reality of this topic is that a minor child with a disability has been promoted with a seat at the table of the UN. Her words and talking points have been provided to her by others. Her sense of anger and indignation at world leaders is inappropriate and ridiculous. The only reason is that she is at the UN is that she is a convenient mouthpiece for others.

She makes news for the cause (as a media darling), and her position cannot be criticized. That is what is wrong with this picture.

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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:56 am

powersurge wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:29 am
I take exception to a comment that I should not be taken seriously.

I may disagree with your ideas, but I will not make value judgments of YOUR opinions or the integrity of your judgment....

As I said before, I don't care what the truth is about the environmental topic under discussion. The reality of this topic is that a minor child with a disability has been promoted with a seat at the table of the UN. Her words and talking points have been provided to her by others. Her sense of anger and indignation at world leaders is inappropriate and ridiculous. The only reason is that she is at the UN is that she is a convenient mouthpiece for others.
Isn't that the reason anyone speaks at the U.N.? She's representing a point of view for a constituency. There are many of her peers worldwide who are equally alarmed and indignant. THEY are the ones with skin in the game. Why seek to de-legitimize that?
She makes news for the cause (as a media darling), and her position cannot be criticized.
You've disproven that. So perhaps that frees us to return to caring about the truth of the environmental topic?
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:05 pm

Have it your way

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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:14 pm

It's eerie - it's as if I've read almost the exact same words somewhere else recently:
Fox apologizes for 'disgraceful' comment about Thunberg
https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/te ... 464075.php

Fox News has apologized for a guest's "disgraceful" description of environmental activist Greta Thunberg as mentally ill but was silent Tuesday on Laura Ingraham likening her to a murderous cult of children from a Stephen King story.

The network responded swiftly to a news segment Monday where Michael Knowles of "The Daily Wire" said the 16-year-old environmentalist was a "mentally ill Swedish child who is being exploited by her parents and by the international left."

Knowles was immediately called out by a fellow guest, podcast host Chris Hahn, who said, "You're a grown man and you've attacked a child. Shame on you. . . ."
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:30 pm

powersurge wrote:
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I take exception to a comment that I should not be taken seriously.
Too late

As I said before, I don't care what the truth is about the environmental topic under discussion.
We have noticed, which is why you are a joke.

The reality of this topic is that a minor child with a disability has been promoted with a seat at the table of the UN.
She has earned the right to speak and be heard. Which is a lot more than can said for you.

Her words and talking points have been provided to her by others.
Prove it. And if true, tell me how that is different than your favorite politicians. Trump e.g.

Her sense of anger and indignation at world leaders is inappropriate.
Only in the sense that she is restrained. 'Psychopathic, treasonous piece of scum' would be appropriate for Trump.
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:28 am

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... I do wonder if your metric will change as the non-human species populations crash in the coming decade. It's happening right now, with insects, birds, and amphibians.
What is causing this? Is it global warming or loss of habitat, pesticides, ...? It is caused by humans and no amount of reducing CO2 is going to change that.
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Re: Greta Thunberg speech at U.N.

Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:00 am

DanCar wrote:
Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:28 am
LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:31 am
... I do wonder if your metric will change as the non-human species populations crash in the coming decade. It's happening right now, with insects, birds, and amphibians.
What is causing this? Is it global warming or loss of habitat, pesticides, ...? It is caused by humans and no amount of reducing CO2 is going to change that.
They are related. Restoring a healthy CO2 level not only means stopping fossil combustion, it also means restoring forests and habitats. IIRC I have read that about 1/3 of the CO2 rise is from habitat destruction. Since global warming is overwhelmingly CO2 and methane related, habitat restoration is integral to AGW mitigation.
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