ranchleaf said:Hey,
We @ CarStations got an update stating "customers only" for Premier Nissan San Jose here: http://electric.carstations.com/2474
Can someone confirm this? Maybe they need to talk to Pacific about the ramifications of this
Thanks.
I would let Nissan corporate know of your dissapointment.ranchleaf said:Maybe they need to talk to Pacific about the ramifications of this
Why don't you just call them or email them? Seems like a better option than asking random bloggers.ranchleaf said:Hey,
We @ CarStations got an update stating "customers only" for Premier Nissan San Jose here: http://electric.carstations.com/2474
Can someone confirm this? Maybe they need to talk to Pacific about the ramifications of this
Thanks.
I got this from Premier Nissan when I visited. They said customers only, so I'm presuming that means a Nissan customer and not just customers of that dealership. I didn't clarify further at the time.greenleaf said:Maybe it means
Customers = Nissan Leaf drivers
Non-customers = Chevy Volt
Why? There were no ramifications on Pacific for their identical charging policy that were potent enough for them to change their stand. As of yesterday, their EVSE equipment usage is still limited to their customers only, according to the conversation I had with them. Rants on this forum or elsewhere are not going to be enough to change anyone's mind. There needs to be pressure from Corporate to open them up, as Mogur has noted. Until the EVP infrastructure gets off the ground, the dealerships are almost the only opportunity charging possibilities around. They should all be open and available to any Leaf owner 24/7, IMHO, and obviously that is not happening.ranchleaf said:Maybe they need to talk to Pacific about the ramifications of this
Pacific Nissan is adjacent to La Jolla and is the closest dealer for a number of affluent coastal areas. I'm confident they sold their share of Leafs. It goes the other way, too. Is Nissan REALLY going to do much to a dealer who is selling a good number of Leafs, and has invested in the equipment and training? I was hoping they would, but I think the answer is no.TRONZ said:I would bet that some of these dealers have sold few or ever zero LEAFs. If so, they have no real skin in the EV game yet. Nissan might have trouble pressuring these dealers over future LEAF orders since the dealers have nothing to lose. If Nissan held back Altima's, then that's another story.
Ouch - did you let them know how disappointed you are in that policy? I'm really, really happy I went with Leon @ Mossy at this point! One lost sale will cost them more than a year of 24/7 use of an EVSE - and what better way to promote business by encouraging other LEAF owners to stop on by and hang out for a bit? You know they're going to be local potential customers!ttweed said:As of yesterday, their EVSE equipment usage is still limited to their customers only, according to the conversation I had with them.
ENIAC said:In numerous interviews, Mark Perry has stated that dealers who sell the Nissan LEAF first must attain zero-emission certification. The zero-emission certification includes personnel training and an investment in the tools as well as charging to support the sale and service of the Nissan LEAF. All zero-emission certified dealerships must have at least four Level 2 EVSEs. Two EVSEs in the service bay and two EVSEs available to the public.
Train said:I can see both sides of this.
But from this dealers perspective, they sell a couple Leafs to some excited customers. One day, their customer decides to stop by and charge their car for a bit and another Leaf is already charging there...bought at another dealership. So now their own customer has to wait.
Sure, the manager could ask Leaf owner to unplug their car and let their customer charge but the point is, they want to reserve the charging points for THEIR own customers, people who bought the car from this dealership.
Adrian said:To me this should be treated like warranty work: just like I can get Nissan warranty work at any dealership because I own a Nissan product under warranty, I should be able to use the "public" charger at any Nissan dealership because I own a Nissan EV. Nissan needs to get off it's rear and contractually address this properly so dealerships stop this type of behavior. If it truly already part of the contract language between Nissan corporate and individual dealerships, the Nissan needs to enforce the language.
Either way, to me the ball is in Nissan corporate's court.
Do they have two? How about one for public 24/7 and a the rest for inside customers. A one hour time limit would also be a courtesy. There are lots of ways to balance the use of the chargers without just a flat NO. Besides maybe they could sell an accessory while waiting for a charge or a new car to the spouse if they appeared friendly :roll:Train said:I can see both sides of this.
But from this dealers perspective, they sell a couple Leafs to some excited customers. One day, their customer decides to stop by and charge their car for a bit and another Leaf is already charging there...bought at another dealership. So now their own customer has to wait.
Sure, the manager could ask Leaf owner to unplug their car and let their customer charge but the point is, they want to reserve the charging points for THEIR own customers, people who bought the car from this dealership.
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