SageBrush
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Thu Sep 03, 2020 11:41 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:26 am
40s on the other hand, should be much more affordable, especially over time. The battery already shouldn't be more than 5-6K now, less from a salvage car. A solid 100 winter, 140-150 summer miles still could be quite useful range for many drivers.
A $5k (installed) 40 kWh battery replacement for Gen1 LEAFs that is sanctioned and warrantied for 5 years would be a game changer for degraded LEAFs. Unfortunately I don't see it anywhere on the horizon. Maybe in a couple of years ?
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:05 am

SageBrush wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:31 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:36 am
Look at 3rd party battery upgrades. You can get a 62 kwh pack installed for $14 K.
To see just how ridiculous that price is, compare to a lightly used 62 kWh Bolt for ~ $16k. That is the entire car, not just the superior battery with TMS. Oh ... and it comes with a multi-year warranty and use of the CCS network.
Obviously not a solution that works for everyone on "either" choice. You can get a 40 kwh pack for as low as $6500 if you want to play the low ball game.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:25 am

SageBrush wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:31 am
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:36 am
Look at 3rd party battery upgrades. You can get a 62 kwh pack installed for $14 K.
To see just how ridiculous that price is, compare to a lightly used 62 kWh Bolt for ~ $16k. That is the entire car, not just the superior battery with TMS. Oh ... and it comes with a multi-year warranty and use of the CCS network.
For those living in a cool climate, with no need for fast QC and a preference for quiet, comfortable cars, that comparison would be apples to oranges. The Gen I Bolt may not be crude, but it is a bit coarse, from the ride on anything but great pavement to the controls. It is also a car in which you have to choose between carrying cargo and carrying more than one passenger.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:58 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:25 am
The Gen I Bolt may not be crude, but it is a bit coarse, from the ride on anything but great pavement to the controls. It is also a car in which you have to choose between carrying cargo and carrying more than one passenger.
lol

If a boat ride is your cup of tea then buy that type of tyres
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Two years in Colorado, now in NM
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:13 pm

Sagebrush, it will work wonders for your blood pressure - and popularity - if you just accept that not everyone has the same preferences, and that there is no one RIGHT set of them. Many, many people have passed on the Bolt for the reasons I gave. I will grant you, though, that you can carry a bit of cargo if no more than three people are in the car.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:59 pm

With the huge range boost over our 2013 Leaf in 2018, I really hoped we would have liked the Bolt. But as said, we felt the ride was coarser and less refined. The reduced rear cargo worried us, as we use the Leaf as our costco hauler, and it would only work if we didn't have any of our 3 kids in tow.

GM did a really good job in the battery, and this might be the best value for many drivers. If you like the ride and interior, go for it.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:08 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:59 pm
With the huge range boost over our 2013 Leaf in 2018, I really hoped we would have liked the Bolt. But as said, we felt the ride was coarser and less refined. The reduced rear cargo worried us, as we use the Leaf as our costco hauler, and it would only work if we didn't have any of our 3 kids in tow.

GM did a really good job in the battery, and this might be the best value for many drivers. If you like the ride and interior, go for it.
Found it sad that GM made some key creature comfort trade-off on the Bolt. I've had other GM products over the years with similar trade-off so not surprised and don't believe Bolt is substandard relative to other GM product. I could have lived with the short wheelbase choppy ride and lack of a heat pump (given the battery size). The deal breaker for me was the lack of adaptive cruise control, cheap-cheap-cheap plastic interior everywhere you touch, and horendous front seats. Decision was sealed with the left hip charlie-horse when stepping out of the driver's seat. Find that a redeeming quality of Nissan products including LEAF is execution of the creature comforts.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:12 am

Hello,

I have a 2012 Leaf with a bad battery, and have read through this thread with interest. The dealer quoted me $15,507 (inclusive) to replace it. I live in Hawaii, where I expect slightly higher costs, but not this high. Unfortunately there are limited options. I called the two other Nissan dealers on the island. One quoted $10,152 inclusive, the third said $9557 for the part, and then labor, tax, and the adjustment for turning in the old battery. I called Nissan Consumer Affairs, but the person was not able to confirm a price for me, just that she was surprised.

1. Can anyone here either confirm a recent price (as in September, or August) for replacing a 24KWh battery?
2. Does anyone have a good US phone number for Nissan I could call to check on a current price?
3. I read that Nissan was going to offer rebuilt battery packs. Has anyone in the US had that done?

Thank you for any help.

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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:22 pm

The refurbished pack program is only for Japan. If you can afford the $10k inclusive quote, and can get it in writing before work starts, I'd grit my teeth and go with that one. Your other option is to try to find out if anyone on the island is installing the 40kwh pack in Gen I Leafs. That one is a long shot.
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Re: 24 kWh Battery replacement cost back down to $5500

Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:28 pm

Thank you for the information. The article I read was from a year ago, so I was hoping that by now refurbished batteries were available to us in the US.

It's hard to justify paying $10k to fix to an older car; for that much, we can probably buy a newer used Leaf. But I really have trouble simply scrapping an otherwise perfectly good car. It's very frustrating. Still deciding what to do. We would gladly pay $6,500, but as far as I can tell the option for that has changed.

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