MendicantBios
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Straight to the point here.
I get the following symptoms when I drive the 40kWh NIssan LEAF.
Headaches.
Tingling scalp.
Facial twitching, mostly around my eyes.
You can dismiss me as crazy, a luddite or an anti-EV activist. If so, please stop reading now and do not comment. I have no interest in debating with you.
If anyone is still reading then let me start at the beginning.
I work in the retail car sector in a managerial non-selling role. I have done this for decades.
Electrification is the most exciting thing that I'll see happen to the automobile industry in my lifetime.
I have been encouraging my sales teams to embrace to change that EVs will bring. From advances in reliability and performance to styling and running costs we will not see anything like this again. For a well educated and enthusiastic salesman the coming years should be a boom time as people rush to buy EV's.
I myself have had my sights set on a 40kWh LEAF from well before it was announced. When I finally got my hands on it early Feb 18 I was the first person in my town with one. I loved every last thing about it. The E-Pedal is a work of art. Any car without an E-Pedal just ins't good enough any more.
It was my only car. I used it everywhere I went. I forced everyone I met to go for a drive in it with me. I couldn't imagine a future where I wasn't driving it.
Then after a few weeks the headaches began. At first I thought it was the new phone I had purchased. (my old phone wasn't compatible with the car) So i reverted back to my old phone. The headaches continued. I considered my diet and cut out all things that are known to cause headaches. By now it was late march and still the headaches persisted but now they were accompanied by twitches in the outside corners of my eyes.
At this point I hadn't even thought that the car might be the cause.
Then came a point in April where I had to drive well over 200 miles in one day in my car. I drove about 90 miles and DC charged back up to 90+% then drove a further 130+ miles. For the final 60 miles I was not in a good way. My scalp was tingling, my eyes were twitching my head was painful from my temples along the side of my head and round behind my ears.
At that point i realised it had been the car causing the issues.
It took several days of not driving the car for the pain to subside completely.
After about a week I started to think it must all have been in my head. So I went back to driving the LEAF (because I love it). The headaches started again, but still I thought that it couldn't really be the car and it must have been something else.
Then I needed to repeat the same 200 mile journey. This time I did the first part as the driver and the second part as the passenger. The headaches, eye twitching and scalp tingling returned. There was no doubt now that the car was causing the problems.
That day I stopped driving the LEAF. I have from time to time taken short trips in LEAFs but now I know what to look out for I can feel and see the results after just a few minutes/miles in the car. It's become a bit of a joke in the office when i ask people to watch my eyelids twitch when I've been for a quick spin around the block while going for lunch. (only when there are no other cars available).
I have experimented with other EVs to see if they have the same effect on me.
The Renault ZOE does.
The BMW i3 and the Tesla S do not. Or if they do it may be to a lesser degree.
I can't work out why the Tesla and the i3 don't seem to cause the symptoms
Could it be motor placement? The materials the cars are constructed from?
Types of motor? Voltages?
I've kept all of this quiet as if my issue became known to my customers it would cause a credibility issue especially as I've been such a strong advocate of EVs.
I've spoken at length with Nissan (at manufacturer level) in the country where I live.
They have investigated things but unfortunately have said that until I can find 5 or 6 other people who are experiencing the same issue that it does not warranty further investigation on their part. But they do have all of my finding on file for future study.
It was Nissan themselves that suggested I try using the internet to try and track down more people like me. Initially I was reluctant as I'm keen not to draw any attention to this as its embarrassing but Nissan insisted that I try.
So, if there is anyone else out there who has experienced similar issues, please let me know.
I get the following symptoms when I drive the 40kWh NIssan LEAF.
Headaches.
Tingling scalp.
Facial twitching, mostly around my eyes.
You can dismiss me as crazy, a luddite or an anti-EV activist. If so, please stop reading now and do not comment. I have no interest in debating with you.
If anyone is still reading then let me start at the beginning.
I work in the retail car sector in a managerial non-selling role. I have done this for decades.
Electrification is the most exciting thing that I'll see happen to the automobile industry in my lifetime.
I have been encouraging my sales teams to embrace to change that EVs will bring. From advances in reliability and performance to styling and running costs we will not see anything like this again. For a well educated and enthusiastic salesman the coming years should be a boom time as people rush to buy EV's.
I myself have had my sights set on a 40kWh LEAF from well before it was announced. When I finally got my hands on it early Feb 18 I was the first person in my town with one. I loved every last thing about it. The E-Pedal is a work of art. Any car without an E-Pedal just ins't good enough any more.
It was my only car. I used it everywhere I went. I forced everyone I met to go for a drive in it with me. I couldn't imagine a future where I wasn't driving it.
Then after a few weeks the headaches began. At first I thought it was the new phone I had purchased. (my old phone wasn't compatible with the car) So i reverted back to my old phone. The headaches continued. I considered my diet and cut out all things that are known to cause headaches. By now it was late march and still the headaches persisted but now they were accompanied by twitches in the outside corners of my eyes.
At this point I hadn't even thought that the car might be the cause.
Then came a point in April where I had to drive well over 200 miles in one day in my car. I drove about 90 miles and DC charged back up to 90+% then drove a further 130+ miles. For the final 60 miles I was not in a good way. My scalp was tingling, my eyes were twitching my head was painful from my temples along the side of my head and round behind my ears.
At that point i realised it had been the car causing the issues.
It took several days of not driving the car for the pain to subside completely.
After about a week I started to think it must all have been in my head. So I went back to driving the LEAF (because I love it). The headaches started again, but still I thought that it couldn't really be the car and it must have been something else.
Then I needed to repeat the same 200 mile journey. This time I did the first part as the driver and the second part as the passenger. The headaches, eye twitching and scalp tingling returned. There was no doubt now that the car was causing the problems.
That day I stopped driving the LEAF. I have from time to time taken short trips in LEAFs but now I know what to look out for I can feel and see the results after just a few minutes/miles in the car. It's become a bit of a joke in the office when i ask people to watch my eyelids twitch when I've been for a quick spin around the block while going for lunch. (only when there are no other cars available).
I have experimented with other EVs to see if they have the same effect on me.
The Renault ZOE does.
The BMW i3 and the Tesla S do not. Or if they do it may be to a lesser degree.
I can't work out why the Tesla and the i3 don't seem to cause the symptoms
Could it be motor placement? The materials the cars are constructed from?
Types of motor? Voltages?
I've kept all of this quiet as if my issue became known to my customers it would cause a credibility issue especially as I've been such a strong advocate of EVs.
I've spoken at length with Nissan (at manufacturer level) in the country where I live.
They have investigated things but unfortunately have said that until I can find 5 or 6 other people who are experiencing the same issue that it does not warranty further investigation on their part. But they do have all of my finding on file for future study.
It was Nissan themselves that suggested I try using the internet to try and track down more people like me. Initially I was reluctant as I'm keen not to draw any attention to this as its embarrassing but Nissan insisted that I try.
So, if there is anyone else out there who has experienced similar issues, please let me know.