With the Michelin Defenders can you see any difference in the miles/KWH numbers ?Stanton wrote:Title says it all: I finally got rid of those (crummy) stock tires and replaced them with a good LRR tire with a 90k mile warranty. I wasn't going to make it through my next inspection (or 20k miles), so I "pulled the trigger" while Michelin still had a rebate going. These are expensive tires, but I expect to get MUCH better value out of them than another set of Ecopia's.
After a few days of driving, the answer is definitely yes: I'm seeing 10+% WORSE range out of the Defenders (low 4's vs. high 4's). While I expected some (at least temporary) drop in range since the Ecopia's were so worn, I didn't expect this much; at least I can track things in CarWings. The fact is I'm trading some m/kWh for longevity: there was no way I was going to buy another set of tires to only last 20k miles. While I don't expect the Defenders to out-last their warranty, at least you get some credit towards the next set.KJD wrote:Stanton wrote:
With the Michelin Defenders can you see any difference in the miles/KWH numbers ?
ditto drop in mileage with michelin mxv4s.Stanton wrote:After a few days of driving, the answer is definitely yes: I'm seeing 10+% WORSE range out of the Defenders (low 4's vs. high 4's). While I expected some (at least temporary) drop in range since the Ecopia's were so worn, I didn't expect this much; at least I can track things in CarWings. The fact is I'm trading some m/kWh for longevity: there was no way I was going to buy another set of tires to only last 20k miles. While I don't expect the Defenders to out-last their warranty, at least you get some credit towards the next set.KJD wrote:Stanton wrote:
With the Michelin Defenders can you see any difference in the miles/KWH numbers ?
I would be interested to hear other's experience with these tires. I have also read they do much better with higher temps AND age--both of which I'll be experiencing in the months to come.
Stanton wrote:After a few days of driving, the answer is definitely yes: I'm seeing 10+% WORSE range out of the Defenders (low 4's vs. high 4's). While I expected some (at least temporary) drop in range since the Ecopia's were so worn, I didn't expect this much; at least I can track things in CarWings.
How many miles do you have on them by now?.. perhaps those long life tires will need a longer break-inthankyouOB wrote: ditto drop in mileage with michelin mxv4s.
and I have had them since October.
break in, shmake in
TomT wrote:Interesting. This would make me think that the Defenders are less efficient than the Michelin MXV4s. When I installed them, my efficiency dropped by about 3-4 percent. Now, it is about the same (at 23,000 miles usage) as what it was just before I removed the Ecrapias (at 10,000 miles usage)...
Stanton wrote:After a few days of driving, the answer is definitely yes: I'm seeing 10+% WORSE range out of the Defenders (low 4's vs. high 4's). While I expected some (at least temporary) drop in range since the Ecopia's were so worn, I didn't expect this much; at least I can track things in CarWings.