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Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:01 pm
by mbender
Maybe I just haven't developed the appropriate habits because I don't use public Level II stations that much, but it seems to me that if I plug into one (and possibly any "non-Home" unit), it should be assumed that I want to charge the car immediately and until I unplug rather than charge according to any set schedule.

Even if I'm the only one to admit it, I doubt I'm alone in having plugged into a public Level II, and come back an hour or two later only to discover that -- doh! -- the vehicle is waiting for it to be 2 o'clock in the morning, or whatever. I'm aware of the cancel timer button, but shouldn't good software be as "idiot proof" as possible? Any reason why this would NOT be a good default?


And while I'm at it, here's a second issue related to "Home awareness" that I think Nissan should correct: stop asking me if I want to look for nearby charging stations when I hit VLB within a few miles of my Home... No, I don't want to, and I never will!!

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Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:46 pm
by lion
You're right, that really is a tiny feature that would make a big difference. Once you get used to this, it's not a big deal, but if you rarely use public charging stations, it's easy to miss pressing that button.

I do suggest you make it a habit to check if your LEAF is charging with your smartphone using BOTH the LEAF app and the ChargePoint/Blink app, as I've experienced situations where it looked like everything started, but within minutes, the session failed.

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:06 pm
by goaliepride
seconded on both accounts. God I wish the Leaf would ignore charge timers while at home.

Also, yeah, boy have I had blinks tell me I'm full when I'm not. I'm starting to worry if it's my Leaf

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:20 pm
by ObjetDart
I got bitten by this as well, a while back. I left my leaf plugged into a L2 charger at the outlet mall. We needed close to a 100% charge to make it to the next QC on the way home but that was okay because we were going to be at the mall for at least a couple of hours. Unfortunately I forgot to disable the timer, which shut off charging when it reached 80%. Very frustrating situation.

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:21 pm
by smkettner
Don't walk away from a public charger until the lights are flashing correctly to indicate charging is in progress.

I can't count how many times I have received the LBW in my own driveway and as I pull into the garage.

I agree on both counts. But then it is just a basic EV.

My gripe is not having more than two timer settings per day and only two per week.
My stupid $50 home thermostat has more settings.

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:12 am
by Zythryn
My guess is that Nissan will implement something as more people request it.
For cars with navigation (all Leafs?), linking the timer to GPS should resolve that nicely.

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:34 am
by todatsu
That is a great improvement idea and please condsider this related improvement:

During the work week, drivers with long commutes must charge to 100% at home during off-peak hours only. However if the same driver on the same day is able to plug in at work, it is better to charge to only 80% at work, to extend battery life.

Just like you, I already forgot to press the (timer override) button one time. Live and learn.

My better solution, which didn't work, was to set two timers for Mon-Fri, one for home (night, 100%) and one for work (day, 80%). If memory serves, only one timer can be set for any given day.

Too bad, that would have worked great, since if I ever stayed home from work, it would have already been charged and therefore use no daytime power.

Oh well.

:roll:

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:04 am
by Devin
This is actually a feature I love on the Focus. It uses GPS to determine if it's at home, a saved charging location, or an unknown location and chooses to use a "Value Charge" or "Charge Now" mode based on your settings. I can set home to be "Charge Now", work to be "Value Charge" and unknown to be "Charge Now" or any other mixture of those. You can also set this the same way on the Ford website as you would on the car's screen. Unfortunately I don't think Carwings is that well tied-in to the LEAF's internal computer to make that possible. Maybe for the Gen2 LEAF.

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:27 am
by GregH
Devin wrote:This is actually a feature I love on the Focus. It uses GPS to determine if it's at home, a saved charging location, or an unknown location and chooses to use a "Value Charge" or "Charge Now" mode based on your settings. I can set home to be "Charge Now", work to be "Value Charge" and unknown to be "Charge Now" or any other mixture of those. You can also set this the same way on the Ford website as you would on the car's screen. Unfortunately I don't think Carwings is that well tied-in to the LEAF's internal computer to make that possible. Maybe for the Gen2 LEAF.
No no no.. The Leaf uses it's GPS to provide truly useful features like making a funny noise when you reach a preset location (from a specific direction no less!)

Automatic charge timers based on location. shyu.

Re: Vehicle should ignore timer at public charge stations

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:00 am
by smkettner
Data storage is so expensive we certainly cannot expect to save timer data for multiple locations. :roll:

And yes if I am headed home and using the NAV why search for charging locations as I go the last 100yards to my house?
Then NAV says I am too close to navigate :lol: