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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:57 pm

GregH wrote:
Olibri wrote:Car bought 1/20/13
DMV app sent 2/8
DMV check cashed 3/26
Stickers received TBD
I'm in the same boat.. similar dates. 6 weeks after the fact, just checked the bank and the $8 cleared yesterday!
Check cleared Monday (exactly 6 weeks after I mailed it), stickers arrived today (Thursday).. yeah!
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:48 am

Nubo wrote:I'm not even sure more people is the answer. Sounds more like foot-dragging to me. Does it take any more effort to perpetually stay 1 month behind than to stay perpetually 2 months behind? Does a long delay make the forms somehow easier to process? Just how long does it take to process one of these forms?

If the trickle of forms is really this difficult to handle, one can only imagine the queue as EV adoption grows! :o
I wonder if the EV exemption sticker applications are done on a batch basis by a group that does other relatively low volume paperwork, such as disabled placards? For example, a month of EV stickers, then a month on disabled placards, etc?
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:07 am

GregH wrote:
GregH wrote:
Olibri wrote:Car bought 1/20/13
DMV app sent 2/8
DMV check cashed 3/26
Stickers received TBD
I'm in the same boat.. similar dates. 6 weeks after the fact, just checked the bank and the $8 cleared yesterday!
Check cleared Monday (exactly 6 weeks after I mailed it), stickers arrived today (Thursday).. yeah!
Congrats on getting yours! In LA/OC I can't imagine driving the freeways without the HOV stickers. I'm in San Diego now, but grew up in LA/OC, and remember the nightmare, especially in that Riverside/L.A. commute. I could easily see the cost of leasing the Leaf being LESS than just the cost of the access fees, for heavy HOV users. I would think the Leaf's would be flying off the shelfs there. Funny how someone would rather be inching through traffic in their Mustang COBRA, rather than sailing through the HOV's in their free Leaf. Image is everything; :x Obey the T.V :twisted: .. You know... :lol: Take care, Bob
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:18 am

bobsfreeleaf wrote:In LA/OC I can't imagine driving the freeways without the HOV stickers. I'm in San Diego now, but grew up in LA/OC, and remember the nightmare, especially in that Riverside/L.A. commute. I could easily see the cost of leasing the Leaf being LESS than just the cost of the access fees, for heavy HOV users. I would think the Leaf's would be flying off the shelfs there. Funny how someone would rather be inching through traffic in their Mustang COBRA, rather than sailing through the HOV's in their free Leaf.
If you're implying that the Leaf will automatically get you free access to LA Metro's HOV lanes, you're incorrect. Metro does not give any discounts to EV drivers; the only way to use the I-110 and I-10 preferential lanes for free is to have the minimum number of people in the car, which is usually 2, but sometimes 3. You still have to have a Fastrak transponder as well, and although any Fastrak transponder will be recognized (even those from the Bay Area), if you want to get the HOV discount you have to use Metro's own Fastrak which has a switch to indicate how many people are in the car (solo, 2, 3+).

For the 91 Express Lanes, you can get a special transponder for EVs that let you drive for free, except M-F 4-6 PM in the eastbound direction in which you get a 50% discount. But on the rest of Orange County's toll roads, EVs don't get any special breaks on the tolls.

Even the Bay Area bridges don't let EV's travel for free, even if every seat is occupied..
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:36 am

Does a Tesla Roadster with only two seats, both filled, get the benefit in a 3+ lane ?
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:53 am

LEAFer wrote:Does a Tesla Roadster with only two seats, both filled, get the benefit in a 3+ lane ?
According to California Vehicle Code section 21655.9:
(a) (1) Whenever the Department of Transportation or a local authority authorizes or permits exclusive or preferential use of highway lanes or highway access ramps for high-occupancy vehicles pursuant to Section 21655.5, the use of those lanes or ramps shall also be extended to vehicles that are issued distinctive decals, labels, or other identifiers pursuant to Section 5205.5 regardless of vehicle occupancy or ownership.
So as long as you have those white or green stickers defacing your rear bumper, you can drive solo in your Tesla roadster in such lanes.
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:15 am

RonDawg wrote:
LEAFer wrote:Does a Tesla Roadster with only two seats, both filled, get the benefit in a 3+ lane ?
According to California Vehicle Code section 21655.9:
(a) (1) Whenever the Department of Transportation or a local authority authorizes or permits exclusive or preferential use of highway lanes or highway access ramps for high-occupancy vehicles pursuant to Section 21655.5, the use of those lanes or ramps shall also be extended to vehicles that are issued distinctive decals, labels, or other identifiers pursuant to Section 5205.5 regardless of vehicle occupancy or ownership.
So as long as you have those white or green stickers defacing your rear bumper, you can drive solo in your Tesla roadster in such lanes.
Thanks for the reference.

I was more curious, however, about the statement you made regarding minimum occupancy ...
RonDawg wrote:... the only way to use the I-110 and I-10 preferential lanes for free is to have the minimum number of people in the car, which is usually 2, but sometimes 3. You still have to have a Fastrak transponder as well, ... ... Metro's own Fastrak which has a switch to indicate how many people are in the car (solo, 2, 3+).
With two people the car is "full" ... if the requirement is 3 .... then what ? :lol:
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:25 am

LEAFer wrote:I was more curious, however, about the statement you made regarding minimum occupancy ...
RonDawg wrote:... the only way to use the I-110 and I-10 preferential lanes for free is to have the minimum number of people in the car, which is usually 2, but sometimes 3. You still have to have a Fastrak transponder as well, ... ... Metro's own Fastrak which has a switch to indicate how many people are in the car (solo, 2, 3+).
With two people the car is "full" ... if the requirement is 3 .... then what ? :lol:
If the two seater does not have the white or green HOV exemption stickers on the rear, this is from http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/traffops/syste ... v/hov_sys/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Certain routes in the San Francisco Bay Area I-80 and I-880, Los Angeles I-10 El Monte Bus Way (during peak hour) and San Diego I-5 San Ysidro requires three or more (3+) persons per vehicle to access the HOV lanes. Signs along the highway will specify the enforcement policy for that route. For San Francisco Bay Area ONLY, originally factory designed vehicles with a maximum two-seat occupancy may access the HOV(3+) lanes as long as there are two occupants in the vehicles.
So only in the Bay Area could a fully-occupied 2 seater meet the 3+ requirement. Here in LA, there used to be signs along I-10 saying that such vehicles met the 3+ requirement but they are now gone; I guess this is the reason why.

Motorcyclists can still drive 3+ lanes solo however, as are certain types of buses.
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:59 am

There ... THAT is what I was looking for, THANKS ! :)
RonDawg wrote:
Certain routes in the San Francisco Bay Area I-80 and I-880, Los Angeles I-10 El Monte Bus Way (during peak hour) and San Diego I-5 San Ysidro requires three or more (3+) persons per vehicle to access the HOV lanes. Signs along the highway will specify the enforcement policy for that route. For San Francisco Bay Area ONLY, originally factory designed vehicles with a maximum two-seat occupancy may access the HOV(3+) lanes as long as there are two occupants in the vehicles.
So only in the Bay Area could a fully-occupied 2 seater meet the 3+ requirement. Here in LA, there used to be signs along I-10 saying that such vehicles met the 3+ requirement but they are now gone; I guess this is the reason why.

Motorcyclists can still drive 3+ lanes solo however, as are certain types of buses.
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Re: Wait time for California DMV carpool stickers?

Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:05 pm

It depends on where you live in L.A. On my 40 mile round-trip commute to work, there are almost no HOV lanes and won't be for many years... And the few that do exist are nearly as congested as the regular lanes.
bobsfreeleaf wrote: I would think the Leaf's would be flying off the shelfs there. Funny how someone would rather be inching through traffic in their Mustang COBRA, rather than sailing through the HOV's in their free Leaf.
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