Official Kia Soul EV thread

[kuroneko]

The good news here is that most chargers in the northeast support both CHAdeMO and CCS. So it's not about remembering the right charger locations so much as grabbing the right connector when you get there. Kind of like pulling into the gas station and grabbing the gasoline hose instead of the diesel hose.

At least you're less likely to put the wrong stuff in your car? There are one or two that are just the one type and not the other, but I'll look into if it comes to that. It is nice to know that most stations will supply both for the time being. I am concerned that they will phase out CHAdeMO in the US if most companies switch over to CCS.

[mtndrew1]

CHAdeMO:

Nissan Leaf
Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

CCS:

Audi eTron
BMW i3
Chevrolet Bolt
Ford Focus EV
Honda Clarity
Hyundai Ioniq
Hyundai Kona
Jaguar I-Pace
Kia Niro
Kia Soul
Mercedes Benz EQC
Porsche Taycan
Rivian R1
VW eGolf

Tesla is migrating to CCS for supercharging in EU and Australian markets (maybe Korean market too?) and most of the Electrify America network will be CCS.

Sure seems like the death knell for CHAdeMO outside of Japan.

[JejuSoul]

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T esla is migrating to CCS2 in Europe. This is not the same as CCS1 in the US and Korea.
In Korea T esla is migrating away from the European Mennekes compatible nozzle to the US proprietary system.

Chademo has the advantage that it is the same everywhere.

The new S oul EV will be CCS1 in the US and Korea.
The new S oul EV will be CCS2 in Europe.

Here are pictures showing the difference on the new N iro EV
CCS1 in the US via AlexonAutos


CCS2 in Europe via FullyCharged

[GRA]

GCR:

2020 Kia Soul EV rated for 243 miles, improved efficiency

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... efficiency

That's EPA combined.

[GRA]

IEVS:

Presenting The New Kia Soul EV: Slideshow Plus Gallery

https://insideevs.com/presentation-new- ... slideshow/

Lots of good info in the slides, including relative efficiency/driving ranges of the heat pump vs. PTC at various temp ranges. Sadly, no green color, but the blue doesn't look bad.

[GlennD]

You can add the IoniQ and Kona to the CCS list. It seems that outside of Japan all new cars are CCS.

[GRA]

IEVS:

Canadian Pricing Revealed For Kia Soul EV & Niro EV

https://insideevs.com/canadian-price-ki ... v-niro-ev/

The presentation is a little chaotic, but it includes the prices, which is the most interesting part:

Kia Soul EV (e-Soul) – $42,595 CAD ($31,852 USD)
Kia Niro EV (e-Niro) – $44,995 CAD ($33,647 USD)

*both with 64 kWh battery and 150 kW electric motor

If those prices directly translate to the U.S., they'll be flying out the doors. Of course, that assumes that the dealers don't add $5k+ markups.

[cwerdna]

All-New 2020 Kia Soul EV Delayed In U.S. Until 2020
https://insideevs.com/news/348785/redes ... v-delayed/

Glad I didn't bother waiting around for this. It wasn't on my radar anyway.

[cwerdna]

All-New 2020 Kia Soul EV Delayed In U.S. Until 2020
https://insideevs.com/news/348785/redes ... v-delayed/

Glad I didn't bother waiting around for this. It wasn't on my radar anyway.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... until-2021

Kia confirmed Thursday that its next-generation all-electric Soul EV won't arrive for the 2020 model year, but instead will be delayed until 2021.

Kia spokesman Neil Dunlop confirmed the news to Green Car Reports. Dunlop said the delay was due to limited battery supply and electric motor shortages. Dunlop said the Soul EV is slated to arrive sometime in 2021 at the earliest, although that may change.

The newest Soul EV was slated to arrive around spring 2019 and improve on the 111-mile range of the last generation, which was discontinued after the 2019 model year.

[DaveinOlyWA]

All-New 2020 Kia Soul EV Delayed In U.S. Until 2020
https://insideevs.com/news/348785/redes ... v-delayed/

Glad I didn't bother waiting around for this. It wasn't on my radar anyway.

Done so because they can. We need to revamp the EV tax code. Instead of an allotment per manufacturer, it should be total sales. Put it at a million for all qualifying plugs. This brings Chevy and Tesla back to level ground.

Convert it into a POP credit and the manufacturer can file for the credit. Its already done on leases anyway or at the very least; allow it to rollover.

This rewards the early entrants in the EV field, removes market advantages for the laggards that sat on their hands waiting for others to develop the technology and will no doubt move the US market up on the production calendar.