Our second 2019 Plus was 23K after all rebates new, and at the time nothing was close in price for the spec.I have both too. A 2021 Leaf S Plus and a 2022 Model 3. Love them both for different reasons. And the Leaf was an absolute steal at about $22k brand new after the federal incentive.
I use the Leaf as my daily driver because if I get in an accident it’s much easier and much less expensive to get repaired. I hit a deer last year in the Leaf and trashed the front panel. I was able to get it repaired in a couple months at a cost of $1300. The Tesla would have been much worse with time and cost.
New tires for the Leaf are much less expensive too, and both my Leaf and Tesla eat tires. So I put as much mileage as possible on the Leaf.
Also where I live there is a lot of EV and Tesla hate. Pickup trucks will cut me off and coal roll me in the Tesla. With the Leaf, nobody has a clue it is an EV and they leave me alone.
I think your the first person I've ever heard call the Leaf "normal looking". Those headlights in particular are not "normal".I like the Leaf because it's a normal looking car.
A lot of cars these days, especially the more expensive models, have technologies that didn't exist ten, or even five, years ago. They are often referred to as safety or driver-assist technologies, as they should be. No cars on sale to the public are "self-driving", no matter what the manufacturers marketing departments might have named the technology sets, as a number of drivers have learned the hard way.I don't like technology in a car. If I want a self-driving car, I'll call Uber.
Tire life is highly variable, depending to a great extent on the tire design and materials and on the owner's driving style. I've replaced the tires on my 2013 Leaf once, after about 5 years and 54,000 miles. The Leaf is now at 72,000 miles and the tires are still good. I've replace the tires on my 2018 Tesla Model S once, after 3 years and 40,000 miles. The S is now at 70,000 miles and the tires are still good.As several here are Tesla owners too, what it the tire mileage? Our Leaf had 10K on the tires when we sold it and the tires looked pretty good. I rotated them at 5K miles. I've been told the Tesla's eat tires but no one has ever given me a figure for average mileage one can expect.
I can believe that a Plaid could go through a set of tires in 4,000 miles. I'm inclined to blame that on the driver, not the car, unless the alignment was bad. Very bad. A person who wants a Plaid is a person who will drive the car hard. But ... when you say the damage was to the "inner sides" are you referring to the inner edges of the tread or to the inner sidewalls?I did see story regarding a Tesla Plaid that destroyed the rear tires at 4K miles. The inner sides of the tires were shredded. Thanks.
That's you in the US... Here in Germany I bought the Leaf in 2018 für about 30 K€, and today I would get about 15 K€.Another advantage to the Leaf - depreciation. In 3 years my Leaf value has dropped from the $22k I paid for it (after incentives) to about $19k private party value now, according to Carfax. So about $1,000 a year depreciation. Really amazingly good.
One should look at the TCO = total cost of ownership. You can influence this a lot, by driving energy efficient. Looking for cheap charging rates etc...That's you in the US... Here in Germany I bought the Leaf in 2018 für about 30 K€, and today I would get about 15 K€.
That's the reason why we now have two cars, I will not* sell it for 15 K€, so we have the best of both worlds. A Model3 and the Leaf.
You put in heftier rear springs right? The pluses uprated the springs because the 62kwh battery pack is heavier. They're generally cheap at a junkyard.It's a 2014 car, with a 2019 62kwh battery that I swapped in. I got lucky finding a salvage one from near Smyrna TN. Sit down, the pack was only $4400 in Nov '19. At the time, it was a really great deal to get a 200+ mile EV. Now a 62kwh swap is too expensive with all the Leaf lovers fighting over them.
These days, If I wanted another 200+ mile EV, I would be getting a used 2017-2019 Bolt with recent new recall battery, for around $15k, hopefully minus the $4k used EV tax credit. Earlier Bolts all got recall batteries or are still eligible for replacement, 2020+ Bolts may or may not have gotten the recall replaced battery. Similar used 2019+ 62kwh Leafs look like they're a bit more expensive. I'm intrigued by a Bolt, but definitely don't need another 200+ mile car.
I really want 300+ miles for trips, just the last 1-2% of usage. Some used M3 Long range cars are near the $25k upper limit for the used EV tax credit. So I'm interested but don't have a real need for another vehicle now.
An EV should rarely need brake replacement. Brakes are much longer lasting on an EV than on an ICEV because most of the braking should be regenerative, not friction.... Even though the only maintenance it needs, are tires are brakes?
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True, but brake fluid should be changed every once in a while?An EV should rarely need brake replacement. Brakes are much longer lasting on an EV than on an ICEV because most of the braking should be regenerative, not friction.
True, but brake fluid should be changed every once in a while?
You can? How?If you want to disable the forward driving pedestrian warning system, aka VSP, you can do that with LeafSpy Pro and a compatible OBD2 dongle.
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