GaleHawkins
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:02 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:33 pm
Apr update. 309 GID's 67.61 AH, SOH=85.06%, Hx=62.97%, 77856 total mi. 32927 mi on new battery. 20 DCFC and 635 l2 charges on the new battery. Battery took a big hit last month despite not driving much for the last couple of weeks. It still looks like it will last longer than the 100,000 mile warranty limit but it won't be very capable. I still I'm looking forward to Tesla's battery day announcements. The ID3 is mired in software problems so the ID4 is looking iffy at this point although VW claims that it will ship in 2021. GM is still talking big but most of what they're selling at this point is sizzle rather than steak. It seems more likely that I'll see the Cybertruck before either GM or Ford get their trucks out. The Model 3 or a Y looks like the best bet right now.
Thanks for the update. Our new 40 kWh SOH loss rate seems to be increasingly with warmer weather. Hoping for a used Model Y in 4 years. Arthritis would make getting out of a 3 a struggle.

ac19
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:30 pm

Hi.

In the link below you find a leafspy printscreen from a Nissan leaf 30kwh from March 2017. At this moment 3 bars down and 48k kms and 5 years warranty, until March 2025. High chances to have a warranty battery replacement from Nissan dealer? Thanks.

http://imgur.com/gallery/4TXZyPu

ac19
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:15 pm

Hi.
The following data showed is from a Nissan leaf 30kwh from March 2017 (03/2017). Probably the manufactured date is from 2016.
At this moment 3 bars down, 48 000 kms and 5 years warranty. High chances to have a warranty battery replacement from Nissan dealer?

AHr= 56.73
Soh= 70.06%
Hx= 60, 03%
Od= 48 000 kms
Qc= 180
L1/L2= 840

corrisi
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:08 am

Hi.
The following data shows the numbers of a Nissan leaf 30kwh from March 2017 (03/2017). Probably the manufactured date is from 2016.
At this moment 3 bars down, 48 000 kms and 5 years warranty. High chances to have a warranty battery replacement from Nissan dealer?

[Leaf 30kwh 03/2017 https://imgur.com/gallery/4TXZyPu]

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:26 am

Why do I have three copies of the above post in the moderation queue - from a different new member?
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 4:29 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:26 am
Why do I have three copies of the above post in the moderation queue - from a different new member?
Hi.
A friend registered yesterday on the forum with my help, but he was unable to ask the question or it did not appear on the forum. At your request, I made it myself. Thanks.

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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:09 am

In the US, 30kWh battery has an 8 year warranty and there is also a BMS firmware update that is available and that needs to be performed before Nissan will replace the battery. Get the BMS update and then see how the battery stats look. Some cars are drastically affected for the better by the update, some it makes no difference. If the BMS update has already been done or if the stats don't change I think the odds are good that the battery shown will reach the replacement limit before the warranty expires.

ac19
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:13 am

goldbrick wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:09 am
In the US, 30kWh battery has an 8 year warranty and there is also a BMS firmware update that is available and that needs to be performed before Nissan will replace the battery. Get the BMS update and then see how the battery stats look. Some cars are drastically affected for the better by the update, some it makes no difference. If the BMS update has already been done or if the stats don't change I think the odds are good that the battery shown will reach the replacement limit before the warranty expires.
Thanks for the replay.
Any recall are available for bms update in this car. Information given by Nissan.
I dont know what type of treatment the previous owner gave the car for a leaf of 2017 and with only 48 mil kms have less 3 bars. The climate is very moderate, which further increases my perplexity. Buying a car in these conditions is always a difficult decision to make. Best regards.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:26 pm

goldbrick wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:09 am
In the US, 30kWh battery has an 8 year warranty and there is also a BMS firmware update that is available and that needs to be performed before Nissan will replace the battery. Get the BMS update and then see how the battery stats look. Some cars are drastically affected for the better by the update, some it makes no difference. If the BMS update has already been done or if the stats don't change I think the odds are good that the battery shown will reach the replacement limit before the warranty expires.

The battery stats WILL change with the BMS update - they will revert to like new because of the BMS reset involved. The real question is what happens to them over the subsequent few months.
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ac19
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Re: 2016-2017 model year 30 kWh bar losers and capacity losses

Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:42 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:26 pm
goldbrick wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:09 am
In the US, 30kWh battery has an 8 year warranty and there is also a BMS firmware update that is available and that needs to be performed before Nissan will replace the battery. Get the BMS update and then see how the battery stats look. Some cars are drastically affected for the better by the update, some it makes no difference. If the BMS update has already been done or if the stats don't change I think the odds are good that the battery shown will reach the replacement limit before the warranty expires.

The battery stats WILL change with the BMS update - they will revert to like new because of the BMS reset involved. The real question is what happens to them over the subsequent few months.
Hi. As I wrote before, any bms update are available for this car.
I personally went to Nissan dealer with the car and they give me the information.

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