2012 SV vs 2014 S?

[jjeff]

I'd still go with the '14 as it has lots of other advantages over the '12 but it's really too bad it lacks the higher charging rate charger, personally I could care less about the QC port but I suppose that varies by region and if your local uses them much. What I do like about the 6.6kw charger is it's almost like a QC, not really but less than 4hrs from empty to full is very nice, gains about 30%/hr compared to not much more than 15%/hr for the 3.3kw charger. It's also nice having the 6.6 if you take advantage of free public charging which often times can supply 6.6 or more, giving you twice as much juice for a given time.

 

[earlgrey]

Damn, too many similar topics. I thought that QC was an option on the 2012 SV and I thought the o.p had said it was there. Time for me to go to bed!

Are you sure it wasn't an SV option in 2012...?

The SV I drove up through yesterday had chademo and j1772.

 

[earlgrey]

If you want fast charge and/or the alloy wheels and nav screen, get the 2012.

Huh? 2012 SV does not and cannot have CHAdeMO inlet (aka quick charge port). See specs tab of http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/Leaf-Press-Kits/presskits/US-2012-nissan-leaf-press-kit. It's only standard on the 2012 SL.

If you look at the charging ports, if you see two inlets like the two at http://www.plugincars.com/electric-vehicle-charging-basics-125792.html, you have CHAdeMO and J1772 inlets. If you only have the one on the right, that's J1772 only.

If the car is 2012 SL, it'll have both inlets and a solar panel on the rear spoiler.

It wasn't until 2013 that you could get CHAdeMO inlets on other trim levels.

The SV I just had had both inlets and no solar panel or other SL options.

Re: "Having no way to fast charge 40-50kwh makes that a lot less likely, especially if a 3.3kw charger is the other option.", are you referring to charge rates of CHAdeMO DC FCs which are often 44 or 50 kW at max?

kW and kWh are very different metrics. It's the same as confusing gallons with horsepower. Think of kW = horsepower, kWh = gallons.

If one charges at 1 kW (or 1000 watts) for 6 hours, 6 kWh came out of the wall. If it's at 6 kW for 1 hour, it's also 6 kWh. If it's 1 watt for 6000 hours, it's also 6 kWh.

(BTW, 1 hp = ~0.746 kW and 1 gallon of gasoline=33.7 kWh.)

I meant what I wrote. It seems a 50kwh pack that fits in the current pack compartment is not a stretch for ten years from now.

Charging a 50kwh battery with a 3.3kw charger would take a really long time. It would be acceptable with the 6kw and just fine with chademo.

 

[RonDawg]

If you want fast charge and/or the alloy wheels and nav screen, get the 2012.

Huh? 2012 SV does not and cannot have CHAdeMO inlet (aka quick charge port). See specs tab of http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/Leaf-Press-Kits/presskits/US-2012-nissan-leaf-press-kit. It's only standard on the 2012 SL.

If you look at the charging ports, if you see two inlets like the two at http://www.plugincars.com/electric-vehicle-charging-basics-125792.html, you have CHAdeMO and J1772 inlets. If you only have the one on the right, that's J1772 only.

If the car is 2012 SL, it'll have both inlets and a solar panel on the rear spoiler.

It wasn't until 2013 that you could get CHAdeMO inlets on other trim levels.

The SV I just had had both inlets and no solar panel or other SL options.

Then you have a 2013 or later model. Does it have the oval-shaped lamps in the front fenders that flash in unison with the turn signals? The 2011-2012 models have those turn signal repeaters, the 2013 and later Tennessee-built cars do not.

Do you have the electric parking brake button (looks and operates like a giant power window switch) in the center console, or a foot operated parking brake? The 2011-2012 cars have the electric parking brake, whereas for 2013 Nissan went retro and put in a foot-operated parking brake for 2013 all across the globe.

Cwerdna is correct; the 2012 SV did not have QC either standard or as an option. You had to step up to the SL model for QC.

 

[cwerdna]

Re: the SV and CHAdeMO inlet, OP, are you in the US or Canada? It's possible the trim levels and standard equipment on '12s for Canada was different. There have been known to be differences between US and Canadian versions.

 

[earlgrey]

I'm in US. It had the electric parking brake, not foot-operated.

 

[RonDawg]

Then either your car was retrofitted with QC from parts sourced from a junkyard (someone did that here), or you have the only US-spec 2012 Leaf SV with QC.

 

[LeftieBiker]

Call me Nuts, but I remember a discussion in which it was said that QC became an option for the SV in 2012. I think it was the same thread in which it was noted that QC was an option on the early 2011 SL, so there are some SLs with no QC.

 

[cwerdna]

Call me Nuts, but I remember a discussion in which it was said that QC became an option for the SV in 2012.

No. That was for '13.

Search all of these for quick:
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/19/2012-nissan-leaf-higher-price-tag-standard-equipment/
http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/Leaf-Press-Kits/presskits/US-2012-nissan-leaf-press-kit
http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/presskits/us-2013-nissan-leaf-press-kit

CHAdeMO inlet became standard on US SL trims starting w/model year 2012.

it was noted that QC was an option on the early 2011 SL, so there are some SLs with no QC.

Correct.

 

[LeftieBiker]

No, I'm not questioning the accuracy, just thinking that once again I've managed to remember misinformation. ;-) I was taught in high school that charcoal filters work because they have a very large interior surface area due to their finely porous structure, and I thought that this was true until corrected embarrassingly recently.